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Profile: The Wingdale Community Singers (2010)

Originally published in Brooklyn Rail May 2010

Spirit Duplicator, the second record from Brooklyn quartet the Wingdale Community Singers, begins with an enticing simulacrum—not a chord strummed on an acoustic guitar but the naked skeleton of notes that would seem to form that chord. There’s the thrum-thrum of the low E string, followed by hammered-on notes on higher strings, two extremes without the cement between the poles to set them to a fixed place.

“I am nowhere tonight/On the interstate west/Where the sodium lights/Meet the vanishing stars,” singer Hannah Marcus laments as she plucks out the notes. “A whole country out there/Branded with signs/Cut through with roads/And some of them are mine.”

The song, however, is anything but fragile, instead developing into a kind of verbal confrontation between David Grubbs’s crunching electric guitar and the honey-sweet vocal harmonies of Marcus, Nina Katchadourian, and Rick Moody.

As Marcus continues, Katchadourian and Moody interject their own backing narratives. Then, over Grubbs’s guitar and a simple line played by drummer Charles Burst, they all join in together: “I’m in the mood to drive/Get in the car and drive/I’m in the mood to drive.” The moment defines a modus operandi: Welcome to your escape.

Moody and Marcus formed the Wingdale Community Singers eight years ago as an exercise in pre-rock Old Time music. But Moody, an author by trade, undermined the wholesomeness of the group’s image by christening them with a name referencing a New York psychiatric hospital. Grubbs, a seasoned avant-rock musician and Brooklyn College professor, joined the Wingdales around 2003, and the trio released its self-titled debut on Plain Recordings shortly thereafter. Katchadourian, a visual artist and singer-songwriter in her own right, joined in 2006, and Spirit Duplicator was released on Scarlet Shame Records last October.

The Wingdale Community Singers’ eponymous debut seemed to take pride in its eclectic borders. It was heartbreaking (“Bigger Ocean”) but rambunctious (“Fishnet Stockings”), reverent (“Holy Virgin Star”) but also playful (“Dirty Little Dog”). The record had a stand-out single that never was (the beautiful “Blue Daisy”), and a killer closing track (the elegiac “Indira’s Lost and Found”)—in which Moody’s breathy singing over an emotive piano figure could be interpreted as either a parent watching a child grow up and move out on her own or a parent lamenting a child whose life was taken too soon. Devastating stuff. This wasn’t quite folk, but something more like “urban country,” a tag that critics tossed around.

Despite how well the trio collaborated—their harmonies can literally summon chills—it was still possible to pick out the individual contributions, like Grubbs’s glassy post-rock guitar playing or, on the guitar squalor that opens “Dog In Winter,” hints of Godspeed You! Black Emperor, a band that Marcus has worked with.

On Spirit Duplicator, the Wingdale Community Singers have become, in a sense, more communal. Sometimes it’s tough to tell who is and isn’t singing, or whose guitar has taken center stage, without consulting the liner notes. The record has more than its fair share of memory-burning songs—“I’m in the Mood (To Drive),” “Pofilia,” “My Les Paul,” the Django-jazziness of “Rancho de la Muerta,” the upbeat a cappella tune “On the Carousel,” to name a few—but the whole thing feels more like a collaboration than a group of musicians playing each other’s tunes. Leading into the album-closing “Death Is Only a Dream,” the song “The Sleepers on the Block” ends with a simple line that, repeated by the whole group over slide guitar and slowly climaxing percussion, turns into an incantation: “Make this chilly bedroom warm.”

“[Spirit Duplicator] is a lot different in terms of the songwriting,” said Moody, who moved to Prospect Heights, Brooklyn, from Hoboken 18 years ago. “There’s a lot of growth, I think, and the arrangements are much more sophisticated. We took more time and were more confident. But I think it’s evidently the same band, in that there is still a lot of pre-rock music undergirding the whole.”

The Wingdales are, of course, subject to the kinds of gossip that accompany any band with “names” attached to it. There are stories of reckless touring, the group’s devotion to Scientology, the intra-band marriages and resulting intra-band divorces. And is there any truth to the rumor that they had a song chosen as the American entry in a Eurovision contest? The group is happy to leave that mystery unresolved.

Right now, what seems to be on their mind most is a third album. Each member has different answers about how close that record is to fruition, but demos are beginning to surface. On one, provided by Moody, the band sounds in top form, wandering through a vocal and acoustic-guitar maze titled “So What.”

The track begins with Marcus singing, over quiet acoustic guitar, about a group having a great friend they’ve just lost. “And I realized that everything, everything is just how you decide it,” she sings over what sounds like a muted trumpet or saxophone. Two minutes in, the piece suddenly shifts, with multiple vocal melodies and, eventually, a poppy, even Beatlesque bridge giving way to a choir of unaccompanied voices singing repeatedly, “So what?” The piece ends in full band mode, with Marcus hitting falsetto notes over a powerful backbeat. This new recording shows a melodic expansiveness only hinted at on the Wingdales’ earlier work.

But when can listeners expect the new record?

“I’d guess that two-thirds of [the third record] is written, but we want to have the whole enchilada more than ready before even talking about [going into] the studio,” said Grubbs, who lives in Clinton Hill.

In the best Old Time tradition, the Wingdale Community Singers write about what’s around them—people and places of New York City, bike-shop boys and Korean groceries and a bar called Doc’s where you can weep over a shot of tequila. But occasionally, they drop references that could be read autobiographically.

On The Wingdale Community Singers, it was a contribution from Grubbs that stood out for what it said (or didn’t say) about the singer-songwriter himself. That song was “Family Plot, Mayfield Kentucky,” a track with a guitar line as haunted as that cemetery at midnight. “The statues defend the dead from our kind,” Grubbs sings. “Shield the dust, the harmless dust/From anguish, grief, inhumanity.” The song could have come right off Grubbs’s solo record A Guess at the Riddle. But it ultimately reveals little—and besides, Grubbs was born and bred in Louisville, Kentucky, not Mayfield.

A similar claim could be made for Marcus, who lives in East Williamsburg, and the song “Montreal,” from Spirit Duplicator.

“My earliest musical memory—I shit you not—is a dream I had when I was five, where the bust of Beethoven popped up in a coffin and sang me a song with the lyrics, ‘A kiss on the lips and I die if I will,’” she said. “It had a very particular melody, which I remembered and mined for a song called ‘Vampire Snowman,’ which I recorded with Mark Kozelek [of Red House Painters and Sun Kil Moon] in 1991. Some people from Godspeed You! Black Emperor were apparently listening to that recording in their van on tour in Germany somewhere and decided to ask me to join them on a leg of the tour. I’ve since made two albums with folks from that band at their recording studio in Montreal.”

“A sewage plant that’s always spewing/Just ten blocks from this park bench/Some nights it smells like cherry candy/Just to cover up the stench,” Marcus sings on the track, over piano and Tianna Kennedy’s cello. “But Montreal is so much cleaner/People take care of their trash/And the rent is so much cheaper/You get more for your cash.”

It’s so tender and caring that it could be a love song, and the Wingdale Community Singers flesh out the proceedings with three vocal narratives; only Grubbs is absent.

But is it autobiography?

“My songwriting is basically all autobiographical, because I don’t have the discipline to keep myself out of the picture,” Marcus said. “[But] ‘Montreal,’ for instance, is actually primarily inspired by a friend of mine who moved to Montreal for a while. She’s back now, by the way.”

Maybe the sense of mystery and intrigue the band creates, after all, is more enticing than the truths they seek to report, much as it’s more inviting to introduce your newest record with a phantom chord than one that’s easily strummed.

Profile: The ‘Antique-Garde’ Songwriters of New York City (2010)

Originally published in American Songwriter March 30, 2010

“The future’s eternally bankrupt but history provides”

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Winter was hard on New York City. February 27, a Saturday, started before dawn for Erik Della Penna of Kill Henry Sugar, who rode the A train from his Central Park West apartment to 176th Street to walk across the George Washington Bridge, meet his sister for a ride and trek to Paramus, New Jersey, to take his weekly course in anatomy at Bergen Community College.

A bridge worker told him three-foot snowdrifts blocked the footpath on the bridge; once the man passed, Della Penna disregarded him, slipping through an unlocked gate. Then, halfway across the bridge, after pulling his knees up into his chest to plant his feet into the thigh-high mounds of snow, the sun still rising and the temperature lingering somewhere above freezing, he encountered the bridge workers. And they were less than pleased to see him.

“I was stopped by bridge staff, who held me ‘til two NYPD squad cars came,” Della Penna said. “The officers demanded I walk back the way I came, while they drove behind me – on I-95 – with lights spinning and megaphone blaring.”

Later that night, no worse for the wear, he entered Barbés, the intimate Park Slope, Brooklyn club that has become a second home for Kill Henry Sugar, soaking in the opening acts – the as-yet-unnamed jazz duo of Steve Ulrich and Itamar Ziegler, and blues guitarist Mamie Minch. Sometime around 10:15 p.m., Kill Henry Sugar – Della Penna and drummer Dean Sharenow – took the stage, a platform, really, officially launching this celebration to mark the release of its new record, Hot Messiah.

They entertained the packed, standing-room-only crowd for more than 90 minutes, playing 18 songs, all told, many of them from Hot Messiah. They covered Fats Waller and sang a cappella on “London Town.” On some songs, like “Bewildered” and “Against The Stars,” Sharenow stepped out from behind the drum kit to strum Della Penna’s Dobro guitar through Ulrich’s brown tweed amp as Della Penna, clad in a suit jacket, sang, his eyes occasionally closing to punctuate an emotion.

“I’m bewildered at you, bewildered at me/ the way of the world, including the sea/ Bewildered at creatures deep under the waves/ The way of our life and how it behaves,” Della Penna began, singing in his comfortable baritone in front of red curtains and under an antique tin ceiling, the setting more a parlor room than a rock club. “I’m bewildered how people manage to survive/ the way that they live, the way that they drive/ their cars on the road, like they’re invincible/ as if death is a magnet and closer they’re pulled.”

“It felt great,” Della Penna said afterwards. “We played and it could have happened anywhere, in any era. The fact that we had amplification was negligible. It could have happened anywhere. It could have happened around a fire in 1910, February 27. And that’s what I love about it, the primalness of it.”

“What was really nice about the show was I was instantly reminded, not only of how much satisfaction I get to play Kill Henry Sugar music … but, because of who we’d invited to play, I had such a fantastic time watching the other bands play,” Sharenow said. “It turned into an engaging evening of music, which I think doesn’t happen that much or happen that much in New York. It’s nice … for a lot of people to come out to a little club in Brooklyn to have a communal experience with music.”

Kill Henry Sugar helps form a New York City circle with Piñataland, Curtis Eller and Robin Aigner, indie musicians whose work is deeply informed by history and frequently feature historical events as the inspiration and content for their emotive song-vignettes. The Village Voice, writing about one of the bands, defined their sound, appropriately, perhaps, as “antique-garde.”

“This fascination with history, with the manipulation of history, the poetry, I guess, is alive,” Aigner said. ‘[There’s] just an incredibly deep appreciation for each other’s craft.”

What they’re doing is not, by any means, new.

There are contemporary, history-focused acts such as the Decemberists, of course, and legitimate Old Time acts focusing on Old Time themes. But, modern-era artists as diverse as Bob Dylan, Frank Black, Gordon Lightfoot and Iron Maiden have written history songs, said Doug Stone of Piñataland. And that says nothing of the long folk tradition of storytelling, or of storytellers working in verse dating back to Homer. This microcosm of New Yorkers, however, some full-time musicians, some part-time, wears its allegiance to history and all the magic and context it entails as a kind of badge of honor, as an identifying marker, a matter of allegiance.

These musicians frequently have shared live bills and performed together on stage, often at regular haunts such as Barbés, whose proprietor also books ethnic and World music. They have appeared on each other’s records and helped promote each other’s work. In interviews, they cite each other as influences.

“Oddly, my very first New York City show was with Piñataland at The Sidewalk Café,” Eller said. “Neither of us was writing the kind of tunes we’re writing now but, years later, we discovered that we’d dug our way down into the same mineshaft. It’s nice to have company down here.”

2010 is the unofficial year of the “antique-garde.” It started on January 28 with the release of Robin Aigner’s Bandito and continued in February with the release of Kill Henry Sugar’s highly anticipated Hot Messiah. Before the year ends, Piñataland and Curtis Eller will both issue new records, as will Piñataland’s David Wechsler under the project name Tyranny of Dave. If there is any time to take a closer look at the micro-scene, to place them and their work under the microscope, it is now.

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Kill Henry Sugar

Dean Sharenow, one-half of the spare folk duo Kill Henry Sugar, is a third-generation New Yorker with Russian roots and, though he spent his high school years out in Arizona, he frequently trekked back to the East Coast to visit his sister, and perform and record in New York City as a teenager.

A drummer since the age of seven, Sharenow formally returned to the city, finding a place in the East Village, in 1988, at age 19, and threw himself into record engineering, a passion nurtured by his brother-in-law, Mike Rogers, who got him involved at D&D Recording on West 37th Street.

“D&D turned out a ton of rock, dance, and hip-hop, and was one of the centers of New York music in the 1980s,” said Sharenow, 40, a full-time musician, producer and sometimes-Web designer who lives on the Upper West Side, Manhattan. “I suppose it was partially through my work there that I discovered my real interests lay in the 1880s.”

Even then, a decade before Kill Henry Sugar formed and explored the delicate spaces between notes, Sharenow knew the value of silence. When he was producing hip-hop records, he had a trick he would use to win over artists in the studio. Right before a rousing chorus, he would drop out all the instrumental tracks, mute them all, and leave behind only the main vocals, naked and in your face, before kicking in the full mix right as the chorus punched in its climax. It worked every time.

“It’s so effective and beautiful to take everything out for a second,” said Sharenow, who sports a full, bushy beard and a scruffy haircut but manages to look clean-cut in photographs. “We keep the plane flying with as little fuel as possible.”

The singer-songwriter Erik Della Penna was born in the Bronx and raised on Long Island, returning to Manhattan at age 17 in 1983 and living in Washington Heights and in Brooklyn while attending the Mannes College of Music to study classical guitar and music theory. He would later live in Fort Green and Park Slope, Brooklyn, and the East and West villages.

Della Penna toyed with guitars on and off until he was thirteen, when he became very serious and dedicated to the instrument, he said. He has lived and worked as a full-time musician, supporting him and others, for 25 years.

Sharenow met Della Penna sometime around the early- to mid-‘90s, when both men were making the rounds in New York City’s thriving Irish ethnic music scene.

Fueled by a wave of Irish immigration to the city and its environs in the late ’80s and early ’90s, Sharenow and Della Penna would play pubs and venues like The Black Rose in the Bronx with musicians like fiddler Eileen Ivers and bassist Trevor Hutchinson. There was a high demand for authentic Irish music – this is “before all the River Dance bullshit,” Della Penna noted – and each musician typically could get paid as much as $100 a gig. And, there, among the proletariat, the newly arrived immigrants, they were awarded for good performances with tears, and learned and refined their craft.

“While I wasn’t Irish, I learned a lot about not being uptight and being a good musician … and having the music be a functional part of civic life,” said Della Penna, 44, a sometimes-scruffy man who wears his longish, salt-and-pepper hair either tied back or tucked behind his ears.

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Around 1994 or 1995, the pair reconnected when they auditioned for spots as the live back-up band to pop-rock artist Joan Osborne. The tour was a success and the two, who shared rooms, felt a connection. One or both later would back Tiny Tim, Natalie Merchant and folk icon Joan Baez, among others. “Our interests were not just parallel,” Sharenow said. “It’s like finding your artistic partner.”

In 1999, Sharenow recorded a collection of Della Penna’s songs and they released it as the first Kill Henry Sugar LP. Though the group initially focused on a meatier, full, alt-rock sound, Sharenow and Della Penna said musicians who played with them tired of their eccentricities.

By late 2001, they officially solidified as a duo. Over the span of the next nine years, Kill Henry Sugar would release four riveting and sometimes-brilliant records, each featuring stripped-down and stirring songs that mixed the folk tradition of storytelling with early blues and rock n’ roll and a kind of Old World charm whose roots are difficult to map. The songs are distinctly New York songs, but New York is only sometimes mentioned. The duo likes to promote itself on its Web site by saying it lays bare the naked roots of Gotham. “Exquisite compositions, stunningly performed without a net,” Baez told the band.

“You really can hear an evolution but an evolution toward simplicity,” Sharenow said. “As time has gone on, we have found that we don’t need to wrap it up any more …. It doesn’t need the artifice of production. It doesn’t need multi-tracking. It doesn’t need overdubs.”

Sometimes, Kill Henry Sugar can sound like the inheritor of the Mississippi Delta Blues, a folk-blues band scattering its notes and hooks and frighteningly memorable melodies like unpolished gems at the floor near your feet. At other times, they sound like a post-rock act covering Johnny Cash; all the emotion and swagger is still there but the notes are stripped bare, each fragile and set in perfect place.

“[They perform] expressive rhythms and melodies that manage to sound both archival and brand new,” The New Yorker observed. “Kill Henry Sugar continues to show its strengths in inconspicuous ways, wedding intriguing lyrics to little textured grooves that have a habit of getting under your skin,” Mike Joyce wrote in The Washington Post.

Kill Henry Sugar splits its duties, with Della Penna writing the songs and Sharenow leading the record production. The inimitable Tom Waits once explained to Rip Rense of Performing Songwriter magazine how he and his wife, Kathleen Brennan, collaborate on making records; Sharenow sees similarities. “I’m the prospector, she’s the cook,” Waits told Rense. “She says, ‘You bring it home, I’ll cook it up.’ I think we sharpen each other like knives.”

“He’s the farmer,” Sharenow joked. “I’m the factory.”

The passing of a generation of New Yorkers – around the time Kill Henry Sugar formed – has left clear imprints on Della Penna’s songwriting. “When my grandparents died, I guess, I started seeing the New York I heard about going away.” he said. “There were young people coming in and I was like, ‘That’s not New York. That’s not New York.’”

“[When I arrived here] I hung out, played music, met people – the city was funky. I could name-drop for hours,” Della Penna added. “The city was alluring and seductive, a murky river to be swam in, to drink from. Now, New York City is a fitness center for out-of-town frat boys and sorority girls with trust funds.”

Della Penna, who had played his songs for grandparents who had emigrated to the U.S. from southern Italy, immortalized the sense of closeness to them and their passing in song.

“I’ll show you who you are, she said/ but just show me all your friends/ my grandmother, well, she told me this/ now she’s no longer here,” Della Penna laments over an acoustic guitar and a brushed share on “Company We Keep,” a hushed number from 2004’s “Love Beach.” “Some friendships made, they’re built to last/ while some are obsolete/ the building blocks that interlock/ well, I’m glad that you’re with me.”

Della Penna had read “Low Life,” Luc Sante’s brilliant book about the shadier side of life in New York City as the 19th century gave way to the 20th, a kind of document in the Joseph Mitchell or even Jacob Riis veins of the seediness, slums and inviting shadows lost in the official, modern-day histories of America’s largest city.

“That just lit the fire about the whole history of New York for me,” Della Penna said. “There’s definitely heavy source material to what I think about – not just songwriting but linking myself to the past, realizing that times were always tough.”

History looms large in the Kill Henry Sugar discography. The group has written songs about Italian fascist Benito Mussolini, Tammany Hall’s legendary Boss Tweed and, more recently, the eco-friendly wanderings of Johnny Appleseed. But the records are also packed with a sense for what the loss of history, no matter how obscure, means to society and its chroniclers. Della Penna dismisses himself as a chromosome away from a Renaissance storyteller, merely spinning yarns for an eager audience. But he also compares himself, maybe more fittingly, to Cervantes’s Don Quixote, someone somehow noble yet also delusional about the trappings of a lost age, a bygone era.

“Art usually works that way,” Della Penna said. “They always write the history that is out of grasp, the fetishizing of history just out of reach.”

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In February, the pair amicably separated from Surprise Truck Records, a Hollywood-based indie label, and self-released “Hot Messiah,” their sixth record and one of their finest to date. The collection was recorded – mostly – on a houseboat docked on the Hudson River in Garrison, N.Y. and opens with “Yankee Talk,” a rousing number whose rhythms and repetitions gradually unfurl. The song, a good example of self-reflexive, post-modern storytelling, places Sharenow and Della Penn among the “volk” whose traditional forms of storytelling they seem so fond of co-opting.

“Well, we descended from some European trash/ though we would not assimilate into the children of the corn/ The custom agent’s only taking cash /‘cause he knows we’ll all be dying in the class that we were born,” Della Penna sings, his voice captivating and expressive. “Had we been wronged, had we been broke/ by helping hands, had we been choked/ It’s that way for Dean and me, Yankee talk with many shades of meaning.”

(The song goes on to detail a confrontation between soldiers and mobs, Della Penna and Sharenow caught in the midst of it, and notes, very matter-of-factly, “you can hire half the working class to kill the other half.”)

The record features more than a handful of gems and, throughout the proceedings, the band sounds more comfortable experimenting with the blues, especially of the Mississippi Delta variety, than they have on previous recordings. “Hot Messiah” is also darker, musically and lyrically, than its predecessor, 2007’s “Swing Back And Down,” and, at times, more direct in confronting the listener with what the loss of history means.

“I’ve developed, in Kill Henry Sugar, despite the other stuff I’ve done,” Sharenow told me. “Erik and I found our sound and we always strive in our band to play as little as possible. If it’s possible to not play, we don’t play. With two guys, if one guy is not playing, you are making a huge statement.”

“The idea of playing less and less and less has really been a huge factor. I think all good art comes down to that,” he continued. “The stuff that really moves me is where you see what they could have done but didn’t …. I think what isn’t said is so much more important than what is, especially in music.”

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Piñataland

About five years ago, the core members of Piñataland – David Wechsler, Doug Stone and Bill Gerstel – were invited to play a live set for a group of young prisoners, most of them aged 18 to 21, on Riker’s Island. An appearance on NPR brought the group to the attention of a prison teacher.

The group was used to playing their songs in unusual spaces. Over the years, they’ve performed in the Atlantic Avenue subway tunnel (complete with miner’s flashlights), an abandoned church in Braddock, Pa., the Edison Museum, a Brooklyn mausoleum, and the Coney Island boardwalk. They even performed a marching song to celebrate the New York Times’ transition to color printing on that newspaper’s loading docks.

But the audience on Riker’s island was different.

The trio, after checking their gear through metal detectors, played “Ota Benga’s Name,” a song about a Congolese Pygmy displayed at the turn of the century with the monkeys at the Bronx Zoo, and “The General Slocum Disaster,” a piece about a boat that caught fire in the East River, not far from Riker’s Island.

After the set, a worried prison administrator confronted the band, demanding answers about their intentions and asking what he was supposed to say in his official report about their visit. “What is it you guys do?” the administrator pressed, frustrated.

“It was very odd – I said, ‘I don’t know,’” said Doug Stone, 39, a screenwriter who lives in Prospect Heights, Brooklyn. “Someone was demanding that we justify our existence. And I didn’t have an answer for them.”

“I don’t think we were too helpful. We didn’t really fit in,” said Wechsler, who turns 39 April 7. “It’s really hard to describe our music and describe what it is we do.”

Like Kill Henry Sugar and the rest of this circle of musicians, Piñataland has always confounded those who seek to categorize them. Formed in late 1994 by songwriters Wechsler and Stone, who met as students at Hampshire College in Amherst, Massachussetts, the group’s first incarnation was more of a comedy routine, a manic country-polka act with some Tex-Mex overtones whose work was heavily influenced by the Old World jazz-pop of Little Jack Melody and His Young Turks. The melodies were frantic and the first EP, a self-titled affair, skittered and scattered all over the place. They made an early appearance on Comedy Central.

By 2003, however – and after another, more developed EP, Songs From Konjin Kok – the group really had found its wings, when it self-released what continues to be a hallmark of the historical-vignette genre, the brilliant Songs From The Forgotten Future Vol. 1. It begins, appropriately, with a bold thesis statement: “The future’s eternally bankrupt but history provides.”

“Goodbye to the Gramercy Ball/ It’s gone now and no one survived/ All of the best things that money can pay/ Have passed on their problems to those who have stayed/ All the mistakes that we paid for on credit/ And prayed for have finally been made,” Wechsler sings over a barely audible acoustic guitar before a pedal steel steps in.

“So buy your time from someone you trust/ And I’ll buy mine from a cold blooded schemer/ Who lies as he cheats me and claims that it’s just,” he adds, before the song expands into an orchestra, led by a soaring guitar. “All of the pockets where money collides/ Are emptying out right in front of your eyes/ The future’s eternally bankrupt but history provides.”

In just 10 songs and 50 minutes, Piñataland takes the listener through a musical fun-house of obscure history, singing beautifully arranged songs about the 1939 World’s Fair; the exploited Pygmy Ota Benga; the destruction of much of East Tremont to construct the Cross-Bronx Expressway; and Mathias Rust, a German teenager who flew a single-engine plane through the Iron Curtain and straight into Red Square in 1987. The band closes the proceedings with the epic “Latvian Bride,” where weeping strings form a wall of sound that can be emotionally overwhelming. The record, a combination of alt-country-flavored Americana, orchestral pop and Island-era Tom Waits, even a touch of They Might Be Giants, was one of the finest releases of the year and drew raves from countless underground magazines. This music was ambitious, even cinematic in scope.

“The album’s tone is reflective, as if the band unearthed a 20th century time capsule hundreds of years from now and decided the best way to understand this forgotten culture was to write ballads about it – timeless ballads full of explosive dynamics, strange instrumentation and ethereal harmonies,” Steve Labate wrote in Paste in late 2003.

“When the Decemberists came out, I was like, ‘This should have been us,’” said Gerstel, 55, a full-time musician and lanky, sometimes-manic drummer with dyed-red hair who came to New York City in 1980 and now lives in the East Village. “All of that could have been us.”

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Shortly after Vol. 1 was released, Wechsler left Brooklyn to pursue real estate, musical theatre and a master’s degree out in Chicago, living in Irving Park. The band continued writing and performing, aided by the Internet and interstate commutes. It was around this time that Robin Aigner, a folk singer-songwriter in her own right, joined the band. She had met Piñataland after the band played a set at Freddy’s in Park Slope, Brooklyn, and eventually asked if she could provide backing vocals.

“I think my first show with them was at Joe’s Pub,” Aigner said. “They are such an interesting juxtaposition of the contemporary and the nostalgic.”

“Since Robin joined the band and our performances became more focused on our male-female harmonies, my songwriting has changed for the better,” said Stone, who has clear blue eyes that project curiosity and wears his brown hair short. “Now, when I write, I think about how her personality is going to inform the song …. It’s a bit like how Black Francis and Kim Deal worked in The Pixies. Kim didn’t sing lead on a lot of tunes, but her vocal presence was vital to make the music more expansive, to give it more of a human personality. Imagine ‘Doolittle’ without her and you get ‘Trompe le Monde’ – good tunes, but a serious lack of heart. And that’s what she brings to Piñataland, and it’s a big deal for us.”

In 2004, The Village Voice named Piñataland the city’s “best dark old-weird-history orchestrette.” They applauded them for Vol. 1 and the recording and online release of a John Quincy Adams political anthem, complete with the name John Kerry woven throughout.

With the new group and a host of songs in place, studio work began in late 2007 at Wombat Studios in Park Slope, Brooklyn on Songs For The Forgotten Future Vol. 2, with producer JD Foster – who has recorded alt-country troubadour Richard Buckner, southwestern desert-rockers Calexico and the breathtaking guitarist Mark Ribot – at the helm. Foster engineered some songs, aided with arrangements and played bass on about 60 percent of the record. Sometimes, he said he was merely a band cheerleader.

“Their take on history is more defining than their musical style,” said Foster, 56, of downtown Manhattan, who met the group through Gerstel. “It’s really interesting that the band is kind of interested in shining the flashlight in the little cobwebby corners and writing songs about it. It’s a reason to exist.”

Foster enjoyed seeing the different ways in which Wechsler and Stone worked as songwriters and composers. “I’d say Doug comes from a purer pop songwriting place than I do,” said Wechsler, the soft-spoken member of the group, whose brown hair sometimes falls over his eyes and his round face. “I’m a fan of written arrangements, complicated interactions, close harmonies and the like, while Doug usually just wants to clear that all out of the way and just let the song come through.”

“He cleans up my songs and makes them less cluttered and more listenable,” he continued. “I take his songs and add compositional depth and unexpected musical hooks that wouldn’t be there otherwise. It was great having JD [Foster] in the studio with us ’cause he’d sort through the different approaches and pick the best way for any particular moment before it got to Doug and I just butting heads against each other.”

Vol. 2 ended up being far more commercially and aesthetically accessible than its predecessor – a slice of orchestral Americana, some songs poppy and yet still heavy on the pedal steel. “Centralia” – a song about a Columbia County, Pennsylvania town that was abandoned, sometimes forcibly, after a mine fire started (and didn’t stop) burning underground in 1962 – even shook off the Old World cobwebs, sounding stunningly modern.

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Wechsler thinks the group’s interest in history is a New York City phenomenon. “New York is one of those places that’s always sort of eating its tail and reinventing itself,” said Wechsler, citing Ouroboros. “So it’s a great place to put a new spin on history – or an old spin, depending on how you look at it.”

Stone draws his views on history from childhood experience. Stone’s father, Leland, worked as a colonel and hospital administrator for the U.S. Army and, like children in military families, Stone called many places home over the years. He lived in Germany early in elementary school and, stateside, he settled in South Carolina, Maryland and Texas. When living in Forest Glen, Maryland, he found National Park Seminary, a politician’s retreat that was reinvented as a girl’s school before Walter Reed Army Hospital bought it in 1942 as a home for convalescing soldiers. In addition to various Victorian styles, the buildings on site included a Dutch windmill, a Swiss chalet, a Japanese pagoda, an Italian villa, and an English castle.

“Everything was falling apart (and) it was a place that was designed in the 1800s to look historic,” Stone recalled for me. “Living in this environment, you have a real sense of history being present and all jumbled up.”

“I came away with a feeling how, when you can spot a certain kind of historical record … it can kind of fill your imagination,” he continued. “It makes your life better.”

Piñataland is now at work on its third full-length record, a 10-song collection tentatively dubbed Boy Scouts of Democracy, a title borrowed from a dismissive comment Stone said Adolf Hitler made about American GIs. The record, which boasts its share of history songs but is not “Songs For The Forgotten Future Vol. 3,” should hit streets before the close of 2010.

“It’s a little more of a stripped-down record but that could change, depending on what we do on it,” said Stone, who said the songs maximize the interplay between his and Aigner’s vocal harmonies. “[It’s] more straight-forward. Hopefully, you’ll get a little more sense of the performers …. It’s still an unformed thing.”

Wechsler also has a new record in the works. His second release as Tyranny of Dave, a 12-track outing, is due to be released online April 7. It is titled The Decline of America, Part 1: The Bush Years.

“It’s not actually a political album [but] most the songs are personal, reflective for that period,” Wechsler said. “There [are] songs about the economy. There’s a song about New Orleans. There’s a song about the World Trade Center coming down. I’m just trying to branch out, do other stuff.”

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Robin Aigner

She has opened for Emmylou Harris in Nashville, played festivals in Europe and Canada with the Crooked Jades, loves the work of Gillian Welch and has flirted with both New York’s Old Time and anti-folk scenes. But, Robin Aigner is a musician who, like her peers, is difficult to peg down to simple musical categories. She is a square peg in a musical genre-game filled with round holes. She is a beautiful anomaly.

Her new record, Bandito, which was released in late January, only adds ammunition to the spirited argument that “folk singer” is too reductive or simplistic a term to describe what Aigner musically concocts in the studio and on stage.

The record begins with an acoustic guitar, almost jazzy and seductive, slowly shuffling just below the surface of things, low in the mix, as Caroline Shaw’s violin weeps and Joshua Camp runs his fingers over the keys of a piano, dosing out spare but perfectly timed notes.

Then, Aigner sings and her voice instantly becomes a magnet for the listener’s ears. You are drawn into her orbit. She is at the center of the world.

“I’ve been to the Campbell Apartment/ at the invitation of F.D.R./ I’m the only one who knows where he goes when he parks his car,” she coos, her voice soaked in sensuality and dropping more than a hint of double entendre. “You can’t believe the papers, periodicals you read/ I’m a lady first and foremost, doer of good deeds.”

Then, Shaw’s violin returns, weeping over Camp’s lonely piano. The effect is devastating.

The song is “Pearl Polly Adler,” an engaging homage to a New York City Madame and Russian immigrant whose houses of ill repute were supported by the likes of mobster Dutch Schultz and served the gangsters and politicians of her day. And it’s the kind of brilliant moment that can be found throughout “Bandito,” Aigner’s second solo record and her first in almost eight years. It is a record that, like those of Tin Hat Trio, sits at the eclectic intersection of jazz, American folk and Eastern European gypsy music. It is an expressive and expansive disc.

But, how did she arrive here? After a series of live sets at New York City clubs like The Living Room, Sidewalk Cafe, and Pete’s Candy Store, Aigner, a sparkly eyed, curly-haired chanteuse who stands much taller than her small, five-foot-three frame suggests, formally introduced herself to musical audiences in 2002 with Volksinger, a 15-track CD of acoustic ballads and odes that Aigner hoped would project a “lonesome prairie” sound but sometimes, maybe even more appropriately, calls to mind the heart-wrenching cowgirl blues of Edith Frost’s Calling Over Time. Then came Royal Pine, her duo with multi-instrumentalist Brook Martinez, and two excellent records steeped in alt-country and Americana – 2004’s Chantytown and 2007’s Huasteca, which had an ultra-limited run and was mostly shared among friends and confidantes.

Aigner toured widely and even traveled to Romania in 2003 with the New York City act Luminescent Orchestrii, a forerunner in that city’s Balkan music scene, to study Eastern European music in a small Transylvanian village (When the locals found out Americans were in town, a night of Old Time American music was planned and staged at the village’s town hall. Aigner played ukulele and sang. Someone translated the performance into Hungarian for members of the crowd.) Her musical palette was diversifying. But something very basic about Aigner’s songwriting is central to what makes her work so appealing, said one musician versed in Old Time music.

“She really caught my ear with her voice – she has a natural, fluid, beautiful delivery,” said Parrish Ellis, 35, of Asheville, North Carolina, a guitarist for The Wiyos who met Aigner in New York City while he was playing in an Old Time string band about seven or eight years ago. “She’s a tremendous songwriter but her voice is under-rated.”

Ellis traces Aigner’s songwriting back to the sensibilities of Tin Pan Alley, even though the inheritors of that tradition might be today’s pop and Top 40 superstars. “She’s got that craft to it,” Ellis said. “All the elements are there and they fit together – the pacing, the phrasing of the melody, the lyrics being clever and still intellectually stimulating, just interesting chord progressions that you want to do over and over again.”

But, on the incredible Bandito, Aigner is more of a driving or central force than a solitary one. Aside from one song – the closing “Great Molasses Disaster,” which is so fragile, ethereal and quiet it feels like eavesdropping on a whispered conversation between lovers – Aigner surrounds, even engulfs, herself with sound, whether it’s a violin, Sharenow’s beautifully understated percussion, an upright bass or the throbbing pulse of the Rhodes organ.

“I think Song For The Forgotten Future Vol. 1 was a huge influence on Bandito,” said Aigner, 41, a freelance copy-editor and writer who has called Brooklyn home for 14 years and now lives in a co-op in Sunset Park, Brooklyn. “I loved the layering of different instrumentation from that album, and especially the violin. I used a lot of violin on Bandito and did more layering on that album than I ever had on other recordings.”

“Plus, I work a lot with Dave Wechsler on his solo projects, doing harmonies, et cetera,” she added. “So I think that experience, being around such an incredible songwriter and composer, has been invaluable.”

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Aigner’s connection to history – and her ability to recreate historical moments in song – is something wholly her own, said Matt Singer, a Brooklyn musician with whom she has collaborated.

“When she’s talked about actual historical events, my experience is that she does a great job of creating a personal story that helps a person feel like what the event might feel like,” said Singer, 32, of Park Slope, Brooklyn, a social worker and musician who first saw Aigner perform around 2001 at the familiar Sidewalk Café. He is releasing a live record in two parts this year.

“I see her as someone from a different generation and a different time and place than most songwriters I know,” Singer said. “Most of the songwriters that I know pretty much fall into a modern pop-folk acoustic genre and Robin just seems to be very comfortable in a mood and a style of presentation that you could have seen at any time.”

“She has songs that could be comfortable being listened to anywhere in America in the [past] two centuries,” he said. (Singer and Aigner collaborated on a cover of The Strokes’ “Heart In A Cage,” with Singer on acoustic guitar and vocals and Aigner on melodica, about five years ago. It still can be viewed on YouTube.)

Aigner has been no stranger to the indie press. In 2006, the Web site Treble voted Aigner one of the most overlooked female performers in the country. Folk Radio UK described her new record as a meeting between The Decemberists, Tom Waits, Beirut and Leonard Cohen— high praise from any critic, indeed.

Music – and songwriting – came to Aigner late. “I tried to play the flute in about third grade, gave it up when I couldn’t hold a note for the required amount of time,” Aigner told me. “Also played the recorder but gave that all up by about fifth grade. Tried to learn guitar in high school, gave that up for obscure English imports, then picked it up again as an adult.”

Aigner is not extensively trained. After proudly walking away from a developing career in the New York City publishing world in the 1990s, she studied acting for three years at a West Village studio, waiting tables at a Mexican restaurant to pay her rent, then just $795 a month. After giving up on acting, she briefly studied guitar and took voice lessons. But she was quick to write her own material.

One night, while waiting tables at an expensive Italian restaurant in Brooklyn, she was inspired to write a song. So, between delivering food and taking orders, she’d scribble down lyrics on spare pieces of paper. The result was “Stone Cold Mamacita,” something of a minor hit in some Brooklyn circles.”

“I’m a stone cold mamacita with an ex-pat hippie papa/ We gotta lot of terra cotta. We’re a long way from home,” it begins. “We live on wit and vino rojo in our orange El Camino/ Our perro’s name is Pedro and he’s a long way from home.”

It is the only song in Aigner’s catalog to be recorded twice – once on “Volksinger” and once on Royal Pine’s “Huasteca,” complete with backing vocals and an accenting guitar line played with a bottleneck slide.

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Even today, her songwriting can be spontaneous, not labored. “I usually get an idea in my head – like I’ve been trying to write a song from the perspective of Joseph Smith’s wife, when he came to her with a revised version of the ‘Book of Mormon,’ with a new revelation that encourages polygamy,” Aigner said. “So I will get an idea and try to write a song around it. But, sometimes, I just pick up an instrument and start playing something and a line will come to me. Then I decide after that line what the song will be about.”

“That happened recently with a song now called ‘Shoegazer,’” she continued. “I picked up the guitar, started playing something and this came out: ‘Is it a crime, to be 59, and be told you look cute? When you know it’s just the color of your shoe. Or the clicking of your high, high-heeled boots.’ It seemed so absurd to me that that’s what would come out of my mouth. So, I decided that the song was about a shoe fetishist and went from there.”

Aigner admits elements of her own life slip into songs. One of the most effecting songs on “Bandito” details the ambiguity of a romantic relationship. She said it is drawn from personal experiences.

“You only see me in the night-time/ when the sun goes down/ Are you around?/ See you around,” she sings, almost bitingly, over a carefully strummed acoustic guitar and the buzz of the Rhodes organ. “Did you know my eyes aren’t blue?/ They change in the afternoon/ Did you know I have a crooked bottom tooth/ some have called cute?”

“I could make a meal for a king/ sing a tune about any damned thing,” she later wails, pleading with the nameless lover. “You would know all of these things/ if you were around.”

New York City and her native Brooklyn also play prominent roles in Aigner’s creative life. “I’m inspired by my surroundings and, since I live in Brooklyn, and, despite the fact that I write about historical events that take place elsewhere, little pieces of Brooklyn inevitably end up in the songs, little details,” said Aigner, who, before moving to Sunset Park, lived in Park Slope, Brooklyn. “But, also, there is such a wealth of musical diversity in this city that you can’t help but stylistically be influenced by it.”

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Curtis Eller

Gee Jon became the first man executed in an American gas chamber when he was killed on February 8, 1924 in Nevada. Several states soon thereafter abandoned the electric chair and followed the new practice, including North Carolina. According to a North Carolina Department of Corrections Web site, the state first used the gas chamber on January 24, 1936 to execute Allen Foster, a man sentenced to death for murder in Hoke County.

Curtis Eller heard a slightly more colorful version of the same story.

“The way I heard that story is that in the late 30’s in North Carolina, they were instituting a new capital punishment device that we all know now as the gas chamber,” said Eller, 40, a full-time musician from Astoria, Queens. “In an attempt to learn if the procedure was painful or inhumane, they placed a microphone in the chamber with the condemned man, waiting to hear what he would say. Not surprisingly, the guy in the chamber was black and his last words turned out to be, ‘Save me, Joe Louis, save me!’”

More stories were written at one time about Louis, an African-American prizefighter from Eller’s hometown of Detroit, than were written about Jesus Christ, Eller said. So, he added one more to the canon.

“Here’s hoping things get better/ after I’m gone away/ If I was there with you I would drink myself blind/ But these hard times could be here all day,” Eller sings over his signature banjo on “Save Me, Joe Louis,” which closes 2008’s Wirewalkers and Assassins with a chorus that borders on a gospel rite. “And Mr. Roosevelt in the White House/ can deliver no comfort down here/ And I know that it’s only a paper moon/ but it’s the last hope to fight back this fear.”

Eller – whose wild, curly hair and conspicuous, brushy moustache jump out in photographs, where he’s often shot in full suits or in shirts with suspenders – was born and raised around suburban Detroit and took part in musical theatre in Michigan and North Carolina before moving with his then-girlfriend, the poster artist Jamie B. Woolcott, to New York City in 1995. (The pair met at a vintage musical instrument shop, where they both worked, in Lansing, Michigan, and have been together since 1991.)

Eller had visited New York City previously but the move was transformational. Within a year or two of his arrival, Eller dedicated himself entirely to the banjo and started playing live shows at venues such as The Sidewalk Café, a staple of New York City’s anti-folk scene. He shared his first bill with Piñataland, with whom he would later collaborate on Songs For The Forgotten Future Vol. 2.

“Growing up in Detroit, your idea of the city was that it was a big, terrifying, empty place that you should avoid,” Eller said. “Visiting New York in the 80’s kind of opened my eyes.”

In 1999, Eller self-released an EP of his banjo-driven songs. Soon after, a full-length record, titled 1890, and another EP, Banjo Music for Funerals, followed. Two more recent full-length records – 2004’s Taking Up Serpents Again and Wirewalkers and Assassins – drew critical acclaim for their engaging combination of boxcar folk, bluegrass-tinged balladry and rousing, full-band toe-tappers like “Sugar In My Coffin.”

“They’re putting water in the whiskey just to keep the boys in line/ You ain’t a-busting up my place like you did last time/ The drinks are getting weaker with every round they serve/ The way they keep us sober, man, it’s getting on my nerves,” he sings in “Sugar In My Coffin” over lively banjo, thumping bass, spare drums and what sounds like an accordion. “So, when I’m dead and gone/ I want some sugar in my coffin/ Well, I said, ‘If I’ve got to go/ I want sugar in my coffin.’”

Eller’s music is the oldest-sounding, in the Old Time sense, of this circle of New York City musicians, perhaps due to the instrumentation he chooses to populate his songs. Banjo is prominent, taking center stage along with Eller’s voice, as is the upright bass. Some reviewers cited the records as experiments in Old Time music.

“I think if I played guitar, people would just call me a folksinger,” Eller said. But Eller’s live shows – which seemed to draw as much from the well of punk rock tradition as that of folk – are truly something to be experienced, those who have experienced them say.

“Most performers will get up on the stage and they’ll stand and sing and play their songs at the microphone and they’ll stay there the whole set,” said Joseph “Joebass” DeJarnette, 34, an Eller collaborator, producer and former upright bassist for The Wiyos, a band with Old Time credentials, who moved in December from Prospect Heights, Brooklyn, to rural southwestern Virginia. “I’ve never seen Curtis stay on the microphone, on the stage for more than three songs.”

Eller walks on tables, tells the audience stories and teaches them to yodel, sprints around the stage and acts in a manner one would expect from someone who proudly identifies himself as “New York’s angriest, yodeling, acrobatic banjo player.”

“Curtis Eller gives a master class in how to command the attention of a room,” Kid Pensioner wrote in the U.K.-based Venue magazine. “Go and see Curtis Eller. One day, you’ll be able to say you saw him in a tiny venue before he was huge.”

“Basically, what it does is that it reduces the barrier between audience and performer,” said DeJarnette, who has performed with Eller both as part of a live band and in the studio and might be producing his new record. “So, the audience is really involved in what he’s doing.”

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Andy Whitehouse has been active in promoting Eller’s shows from his home overseas.

“I had a venue called The Circle. I had a punky blues band from Sheffield [England] booked and the agent rang me and said, ‘Andy, would it be okay if we brought New York’s angriest yodeling banjo player as support?’ It took about 3 milliseconds to say, ‘Yes,’” said Whitehouse, 46, who works with young adults with autism and Asperger’s syndrome and lives in Sheffield, England. “So I looked Curtis up online and found this footage of an awkward guy who reminded me of Tom Waits and Randy Newman and had this bizarre, nervy stage presence. I was hooked!”

“I think a lot of English artists shy away from the notion of being ‘entertainers,’” Whitehouse added. “Curtis is the most breathlessly entertaining performer I can ever remember seeing. He is assessing every audience all the time and responding to what is happening. It’s fascinating to watch him.”

Eller got an early education in performance and the value of giving paying patrons their money’s worth. His father, Robert, a gym teacher by trade, ran a small-time circus called Hiller Old Time Circus and the younger Eller gained entertainment experience as both a juggler and acrobat. Robert “Bob” Eller also played bluegrass banjo and rockabilly guitar for a Baptist church in their native Michigan and he taught his son the ways and means of the bluegrass banjo when Curtis was just 13, formative years for the teenager.

“Banjo players were like the punk-rockers of their time,” Eller said. “It’s a highly physical, harmonically simple music that is designed to get people sweaty.”

When it came to writing his own material, Eller started around age 18 and was inspired by 1920s-era banjo players like Dock Boggs, Old Time string bands, and the 1960s Old Time revivalists The Holy Modal Rounders, one of the first acts Eller said used the term “psychedelic” in song. “[The Holy Modal Rounders] are giants for me,” Eller said. “They sort of established the playbook on how to be modern and stand in one spot and work backwards – great music.”

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Eller stresses, despite the banjo and the anachronistic airs, he is no member of the Old Time crowd. “I sing about old things but the songs are not constructed like actual old songs. A lot of people aren’t familiar with Old Time music,” Eller said. “[My music] is somewhere between folk and rock n’ roll music.”

It’s more about music that actually moves and rolls itself around, making you move with the sound.

“It’s splitting the difference between 1928 and 1961,” Eller explained. “The writing is much more closely related to people like Randy Newman or The Kinks – modern songs about old things.”

In another song off “Taking Up Serpents Again,” Eller laments the current, deteriorating state of the film and entertainment industries by calling for the return, the resurrection, even, of silent film marvel Buster Keaton.

“Well, since they started in with the talkies/ you can’t get a moment’s peace,” Eller sings over a lonely banjo. “But they’re talking just to hear/ their own voices, well at least/ that’s what it seems like/ ‘cause there’s nothing that I’ve heard that bears repeatin’/ Won’t you come back to the movies, Buster Keaton?”

“It sums up the sense of loss of a world that perhaps never was but is yearned for,” Whitehouse said.
The era of the silent film and of vaudeville, and the artistry both embodied, loom large in Eller’s work. History and the capturing of history are ever-present. But, Eller strongly disputes accounts in the underground press that say he writes about obscure historical figures.

“I concern myself with the most prominent historical and political characters out there,” Eller said. “Abraham Lincoln, Elvis Presley and Richard Nixon seem to show up frequently. I think if you understand Elvis, Lincoln and Nixon you know everything you need to know about America.”

“I’ve also written about John Wilkes Booth, Amelia Earhart, Buster Keaton, Jack Ruby and Boss Tweed,” he added. “None of these can really be considered obscure. If anybody around here is obscure, it’s me.”

As a full-time musician, Eller spends a lot of time on the road, touring both nationally and internationally. When he’s in the studio, which he will be later this year, he likes to work quickly, capturing the energy and vitality of his performances and those of his backing band. Sessions take hours and days, not weeks and months.

Eller has been doing this full-time for nearly a decade. He gave up his last day job, a gig answering phones for an architect down in Greenwich Village, shortly after day-to-day life in New York City was turned upside-down by the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.

“If there’s a chance that everybody in the world is going to die, I don’t want to die with a phone in my hand,” Eller remembered thinking. “I’d rather die with a banjo in my hand than a phone.”

Eller, who plays a regular gig at Banjo Jim’s in the East Village, said he’ll be releasing a new record, maybe two, before the end of the year but he’s also quick to talk about his daughter, Daisy, who turns three March 30.

“Daisy has been strumming away on the [ukulele], banjo and mandolin for a while now,” said the proud father, whose voice changes, if only slightly, when he talks about his daughter. “She often ‘writes’ tunes about what’s going on in her life. It’s really very cute.”

“I suspect I’ll be opening for her one of these days!”

Profile: Robin Aigner (2010)

Originally published in Brooklyn Rail April 2010

Robin Aigner, a vintage dress and boots extending her pint-sized frame, remains in control of the Living Room’s standing-room crowd as the music swirls around her. Ian McLaughlin’s upright bass lurches along, drummer Bill Gerstel doles out spare yet fluid accompaniment, and Brady Jenkins conjures up twinkling piano notes as Aigner, plucking an acoustic guitar at center stage, works her way through the verses of “See You Around,” the relationship number from her new record, Bandito.

“I’ve tidied up for the occasion, looking forward to the liaison,” she sings, her voice both vulnerable and seductive. “I throw away all of my reason when you come to town.”

Then comes the confrontation.

“I could make a meal for a king, sing a tune about any damned thing,” Aigner wails, throwing her head and neck backward and pushing out the words as violinist Rima Fand joins her on harmony vocals. “You would know all of these things if you were around.”

Robin Aigner is a songwriter in transition, and Bandito, which she self-released earlier this year, is a document of a musician operating at the peak of her craft. Aigner, who lives in Sunset Park, Brooklyn, introduced herself to local audiences more than seven years ago with Volksinger, a 15-track collection of acoustic odes that foreshadowed the singer-songwriter’s later affiliations with New York City’s Old Time and Anti-folk scenes. Then there was her collaboration with multi-instrumentalist Brook Martinez in Royal Pine, a duo that toured the countryside and released a pair of records steeped in Americana and alt-country. Aigner’s “Stone Cold Mamacita,” an early song released on both Volksinger and Royal Pine’s ultra-limited Huasteca, became a minor hit in some Brooklyn circles.

Bandito, however, presents Aigner as more of a central force than a solitary one. On songs like the beautifully engaging album-opener “Pearl Polly Adler,” she surrounds, even engulfs, herself with sound, most notably the rich and emotive violin playing of Caroline Shaw. “I’ve been to the Campbell apartment / At the invitation of F.D.R. / I’m the only one who knows where he goes when he parks his car,” she sings, letting the listener in on the secret and slipping in a hint of double entendre. “You can’t believe the papers, periodicals you read / I’m a lady first and foremost, doer of good deeds.”

Then, Shaw’s violin returns, weeping over Joshua Camp’s lonely piano.

On “Irving and Annie”—which concocts a relationship between composer Irving Berlin and Annie Moore, the first immigrant to pass through the gates of Ellis Island—Aigner accents her banjo-strumming with Dean Sharenow’s jangly percussion, a couple of piano solos, and the whisper and moan of Shaw’s violin. Even “See You Around,” a fairly low-key affair by Bandito’s standards, is fleshed out with multi-tracked vocals, pulsing bass lines, drums, and Rhodes organ.

Only on the disc’s closing track, “Great Molasses Disaster”—a historical vignette about a January 1919 incident when a tank of molasses exploded in Boston—does Aigner perform solo, in the true sense of the word. Then, the effect is so spare, fragile, and intimate that listening to it almost feels like eavesdropping, and the result feels devastatingly personal. “Sorry, my darlin’, I can’t meet today, doin’ my job, doin’ my job / How could something so sweet sweep us all off our feet / Our shoes are where our heads should be,” she coos over a naked acoustic guitar measure. “Too warm for January ten and nine / The air felt like September when you laid down your life / And the horses stuck like flies.”

Aigner’s voice is the engine that drives much of Bandito, a tender vehicle whose smooth texture and sensuality calls to mind Sam Phillips’s recordings for Nonesuch Records. However, Aigner is no folk-pop torch singer in the Phillips mold. Some of the songs on Bandito sit closer to the intersection of jazz, folk, and Eastern European gypsy music so wonderfully mined over the years by Tin Hat Trio. But Mark Orton, Tin Hat Trio’s guitarist, doesn’t hesitate to flaunt his virtuosity and jazz chops on six strings, whereas Aigner’s guitar lines are simple and more straightforward, recalling 1960s-era folk acts or even the more recent cowgirl blues of Edith Frost’s Calling Over Time. The components of her songs form a complicated equation, but above all they work, fitting together like so many puzzle pieces.

The fingerprints of Piñataland, the Brooklyn-based Old World orchestrette with whom Aigner collaborates, can also be found all over Bandito. Like Piñataland’s brilliant full-length debut, 2003’s Songs for the Forgotten Future Vol. 1, Bandito concerns itself with retelling and recapturing lost tidbits of American and personal history, but highlighting the emotional resonance of the events, rather than the cold simplicity of the facts. This approach also binds her to local acts like Kill Henry Sugar and Curtis Eller, the Astoria, Queens-based banjo player who opened for Aigner during the Bandito CD release event at the Living Room.

Bandito was recorded on a tiny budget over the course of three weeks at the Seaside Lounge Recording Studios in Brooklyn. Aigner later laid down some vocal tracks at Wombat Studios, a Park Slope institution that’s a short hop from Freddy’s Bar and Backroom, where Aigner first established herself with solo performances in the early 2000s. A lot has happened since she first took the stage in Freddy’s with her great-uncle’s acoustic guitar during an open mic night sometime in 2001. Aigner herself is quick to note the incredible transformation that would greet a listener following Volksinger directly with Bandito.

“We did a lot of [Volksinger] live, but it took forever, and I didn’t have the means or the confidence to add other musicians to it,” Aigner recalled. “By the time I got to Bandito, I had more creativity and more exposure to other kinds of music, more experience playing with other musicians, and more confidence in my ideas and my ideas in the studio. I was in charge in the production end, but I also had musicians who got the music and were excited and brought to the studio their own interpretation of it,” she said. “I definitely can’t take full credit for the way the album turned out.”

By the time Aigner started writing and recording Bandito she had also traveled quite a bit. She had toured widely with Royal Pine, recording sessions for Knoxville, Tennessee, radio station WDVX, played festivals with the Crooked Jades in Europe and Canada, and opened for Emmylou Harris in Nashville. She had also trekked to Romania with the string band Luminescent Orchestrii, pioneers of New York’s Balkan music scene, studying Eastern European music at a local festival and later staging on Old Time set at a Transylvanian village’s town hall. In 2006, the website Treble named Aigner one of the top overlooked female artists in the country.

Bandito is a record with many lustrous moments, from the heartache of “Pearl Polly Adler” to the hints of Spanish flamenco on “Dolores from Florence,” to the humorous “Mediocre Busker” and the flirtatious duet “Get Me Home”. It’s a product of its environment and the collaborators increasingly linked to Aigner, but it’s also a brilliant collection of songs, one that, all things being equal, should prove fodder for some best-of lists at the end of 2010.

Profile: Nonagon (2009)

band2Originally published in Delusions of Adequacy June 1, 2009

Nonagon’s songs have a way of popping, no, better yet, of exploding out of stereo speakers, as if they were bottles of pressurized soda water just itching to be uncapped. On No Sun, their self-released and hand-assembled debut CD, angular guitars tear through the landscape, bass and drums lunge back and forth, and a barked refrain is never far away. The moment on the title track when frontman John Hastie screams “No sun! No sun! No sun!” might be among the most adrenaline-fueled moments of 2008. The record leaves an impression. And it’s only 15 minutes long. Delusions of Adequacy recently got the chance to exchange e-mail with the trio – bassist Robert Gomez, Hastie and drummer Tony Aimone – and talk about interesting names and what it means to be a punk band from Chicago.

Delusions of Adequacy: So, what’s the connection between a nine-sided polygon and a post-punk band? And do you mind if I call you a post-punk band?

John Hastie: The name was chosen with some degree of randomness. It was the first not to be vetoed by one of us. That said, I guess there are some happy accidents: We, too, are divisible by three. We seem to have a proclivity for odd-numbered time signatures (although I don’t think “9″ has happened yet), and it sounds fantastic when chanted by thousands of fans en masse.

Post-punk is fine, I guess. When asked, I just end up just defaulting to “punk” almost immediately. It’s a convenient answer to the “what’s-your-band-like?” question because it’s a term that has lost most of its specificity. Folks are satisfied with the answer because they immediately attribute their own set of assumptions and baggage to it.

Robert Gomez: Yeah, our previous #1 choice for a name was a made up word. However, a few months and several random web searches later, we discovered some hardcore band had came up with the same unlikely combination of letters before us. That’s when we fell back on randomly pointing to words in a Spanish-to-English dictionary.

Tony Aimone: In my mind, we’ll always be called Brown Sabbath.  Nonagon was just a name that the other two nerds in the band could understand and relate to. Since we came up with Brown Sabbath back in ‘92 there have been countless other bands with that name.  But it’ll always be ours.  Always.

DOA: Let’s talk more about “defaulting to ‘punk.’” How much of what you guys do is filtered through the music, some of which you could call punk, that’s come out of Chicago in the last 20 years? How much are you a product of the region?

RG: I didn’t start playing in bands or going to shows until I was in college down in Champaign-Urbana in the early 90s. A large chunk of what I saw were either Chicago bands or student bands comprised of Chicagolanders who were reared on bands like Big Black or Naked Raygun (unlike myself who was reared on Dr. Demento and Casey’s Weekly Top 40). So, I literally learned to play music in this environment or scene, or whatever you want to call it. And I suppose that sound will always pervade much of what I bring to Nonagon.

JH: I guess it would be a pretty obvious lie to claim we weren’t influenced by a bunch of the stuff we were listening to when we were considerably younger. It’s like what they say about a person’s clothing choices: they tend not to stray too far from the stuff they wore when they were at the happiest point in their lives. I guess you just have to wear it unapologetically, hope you wear it well and try to do something fresh with it.

So yeah, for me it started with a pretty steady diet of Naked Raygun, Big Black, The Effigies and a dozen other bands from Chicago that would play all ages shows in the mid-eighties. Then, of course, Touch and Go blew it all wide open. At the risk of sounding corny, it was an incredibly exciting time and I still think it’s inspiring.

I think it’s fair to say that what Nonagon is doing now might have begun there, taken strolls through Dischord and SST, and spent a chunk of time in 90s Illinois college towns (another exciting time). But it’s also been informed by a ton of what we’ve absorbed since then, which is to say, a lot. We’re kind of old. Don’t tell anybody.

sittinbandguys2DOA: Tell me about the history of the band. When did you guys form and how? For how long were you playing before you ventured into the studio for the EP?

JH: It’s been something like five or six years ago at this point. Tony and I had played together in the latest of my “one-show-and-out” bands along with our friends Brian (who used to be in the Baltimores) and Mark (who is now in an amazing band called Neptune out of Boston).

I had pretty much had a long string of those short-lived projects ever since the mid-nineties. I could never seem to find a group of folks with whom musical kinship was balanced with social compatibility. For example: I briefly brushed a snare drum and sang high-lonesome harmonies in a bluegrass band in Kansas. I loved the other folks in the band, but it was obviously pretty far from where I prefer to sit musically.

When Mark moved to Boston breaking up The Metric System, Tony and I realized that we seemed to be on the same page. I had recently run into Robert after years of not seeing him and remembered that he was a pretty great bass player so we kidnapped him from his wife (who seemed eager to get him out of the house, frankly). It kind of replicated what, up to this point, had been my most fertile and comfortable place to be: collaborating in a loud trio with like-minded folks who at least pretend to stand my company.

I’d love to report that things moved quickly after that, but we decided early on that trying to force the band on our families, jobs, etc., might make it a source of tension, so we practice, play shows and record when we can squeeze it into our “adult” lives. This means occasional periods of inactivity (sometimes a couple of months long) followed by spurts of frenzied band-ness (like the one we seem to be in right now).

DOA: Tell me more about when and how you pieced together the EP. And how conscious of a decision was it to self-release it?

JH: There was never any real doubt that this would be a self-release. Pretty much every decision was made with that in mind. There are really great and trustworthy labels but the equation seems stacked against the whole endeavor: Nobody with any scruples is making much money in this milieu and there are a ton of really good bands worthy of exposure. For small labels, that means there are a lot of attractive-but-risky prospects out there, bands they love personally and creatively that they’d like to support but who may not be “wise financial investments.” Add to that the fact that the ever-dwindling audience for live rock, and the picture isn’t pretty.

From the beginning we decided that we really didn’t want to be evaluated by anybody (especially friends) based on our potential rate of economic return. It can create weirdness and regrettable decision-making.

With that in mind, we went into the recording of the EP the same way we’ve approached the whole band thing: as a hobby, a cathartic, expensive, obsessive hobby that we take seriously, but a hobby all the same. Someone might think that sounds like we’re not dedicated, but the way I see it: keeping the band removed from our food chain means that we’ll only make decisions based on what we owe it and what we get from it.

So we waited until we had some money saved and then recorded and assembled the EP based entirely on our own desires and limits. We worked with the folks we wanted to work with, packaged it the way we wanted to package it, made it the length we wanted it to be, priced it the way we wanted to, had to find our own workarounds for snags, etc. But really, once we made the decision to actually start the project last August, it didn’t take too long before we had an actual, finished, debut CD in our hands.

That said, there are some things I would’ve loved some label-like support with: Sending out copies to radio stations, ‘zines, Web sites and venues. Booking out-of-town shows. Finding distributors and stores who would agree to stock the EP. Cutting, folding, gluing, and stuffing the sleeves, etc. Doing it all from scratch — and without the “cred” of the right label or distributor — has been challenging and has taken a long time.

What’s great is that we’re discovering that there are still some folks here and there who will take a chance and listen to the occasional unsolicited CD in their mailbox.

backseatbandguysDOA: You can count me among those open to unsolicited recordings. So, what’s next for you guys? Does the hobby nature of things keep you from planning too far ahead when it comes to tours, new records, and so on?

RG: Getting the CD together gave us a chance to hear some of these songs that we had been tooling around with for a few years finally come together, and it has gotten us itching to do more. Lately our practices have been more about creating new songs and trying some different things rather than simply burning through our set list. There has even some preliminary discussion regarding our next recording.

That said, the hobby nature of the band does limit our scope a little bit. As much as I would love to create an epic double-disc concept album, we realize that it’s just not possible given our lives outside of the band. I think we are happy with the idea of releasing an EP every year or two and traveling out-of-state occasionally on weekend micro-tours.

So, the band is planning and moving forward. But things just happen to be moving on more of a geological time scale.

JH: Life intervened right after our EP release party causing an immediate hiatus and pretty much killing all momentum. Now that we can play again we’re making the most of it with a nice flurry of activity: writing new songs (the next EP is pretty much covered), and setting up shows (in and out of town). The hope is that we make at least two steps forwards for every inevitable step backwards and integrate this unwieldy thing ever-more-regularly into our lives.

By the way, anybody booking a show within five hours of Chicago should track us down.

Profile: Pinataland (2004)

Profile: Pinataland (2004)

Originally published in Delusions of Adequacy Sept. 27, 2004

You wouldn’t know it from listening to their unique and breathtaking debut – a collection of endearing history portraits and sometimes-elegiac narratives titled Songs for the Forgotten Future Vol. 1 – but Pinataland is actually a group of living, breathing musicians, not some relic confined to the memories of those who haunt the shadows and impressions of old 78s and phonograph cylinders.

Luckily for those of us inhabiting the cusp of the 21st century, the New York ensemble also is more than just conscious of how they craft and compose their work, which feels as familiar as an old photograph while displaying a contemporary sense of postmodern pastiche and an edgy awareness of how nostalgia can color any tale. They seem to relish the implications and complications of being an independent musician in the here and now while reconsidering the landscapes and emotive narratives of the there and then.

Delusions of Adequacy recently got the chance to speak via e-mail with two of the key songwriters behind the group, straighten out the tangled web of influences that PiÒataland weaves, and get a sneak preview for what awaits listeners in the second volume of the ensemble’s “forgotten future.”

Delusions of Adequacy: For a band that seems taken with the concept of a timeline, both thematically and musically, let’s start near the beginning of things. How did Pinataland form and at what point did you begin to develop your sound, which is quite distinct from many of your modern-day peers?
Douglas Stone: Dave and I met at Hampshire College in the early 90′s. We seemed to be mainly interested in annoying the indie-rock crowd, which was worshipping at the Pavement altar at the time. The most un-hip thing we could do was polka-style stuff, so like moths to the flame that was what we did. Audience indifference reigned. We formed a trio with a mandolin player named Angus Heard Hughes, played some early Pinataland songs like “Creature” and “Cowboy,” and covers from Disney TV westerns.

Summer of ’94, I moved down to NYC. I seem to remember calling Dave and telling him to move (he was in Chicago) to form Pinataland, the name of a store (now closed) in my hometown of San Antonio. Initially a duo, first gig was at the Half Moon Cafe on 2nd Ave in Manhattan. And then, to drums and bass with accordion and guitar. The sound was Tex-Mex-influenced, with lyrics that hinted at delusions of grandeur. I can’t speak for Dave, but I was influenced by Tom Waits, Camper Van Beethoven, Little Jack Melody and his Young Turks, Kurt Weill (from a CD called Lost in the Stars), a Los Lobos EP called La Pistola y el Corazon, and – not so much stylistically as general approach – Talking Heads.

Shows were fun, amped-up, conjunto polka stuff with some ballads. After we put out our first EP in ’97 (self-titled), we played on a Comedy Central program called Premium Blend. Jim Brewer introduced us, said our name as “Piaaaantalllaaaaaaa.” We cracked up at that. That particular experience was a turning point. We decided that we didn’t want to go the comedy route at all. I felt like the sound was already referencing an older world – and both Dave and I were into odd history – so I wrote “Coney Island Funeral,” the first “history tune.” It seemed to inspire us in a new direction, conjuring old stories through music. The next EP in

99, Songs from Konijn Kok (old Dutch for Coney Island), had two history songs and some other tunes that were more Tom Waits-y in style and tone. By this time, we had ditched the bass and added tuba and violin, which I think helped us write music that sounded different from traditional rock. And then we decided to do a record of all history tunes for Songs for the Forgotten Future. But I would add that we have played plenty of tunes that are not history-related (mostly written by Dave) that are more personal/observational, and after the next record SFTFF Vol. II, we plan to abandon the history theme – at least lyrically – all together.

But, the sound? I know this is also on our bio, but I’d like to say that the point is not to sound “old-timey” at all, but actually very modern, what a person in our specific musical culture and time would imagine the past to sound like, as opposed to what it actually did. Meaning, the songs sound like the emotions we have about these stories and our filtered interpretation of events that we can never experience , so there’s a distance there – emotionally and musically – that I hope is received as longing and a desire to connect with something from long ago.

DOA: It’s interesting to hear how the formula for the band evolved, especially in terms of ingredients and influences. I’m curious at what point you started integrating sound clips and other texts into your recordings. While the music on SFTFF Vol. 1 can be very enveloping and itself conjures a wide range of musical epochs and genres, the clips that bookend the tracks provide their own context, their own readings on how the past and its artifacts fit into the mix. Was this a conscious move, something really meant to fit into or manipulate PiÒataland’s musical history, or am I just reading into this too much?

DS: The problem with doing songs with lyrics that reference obscure historical stuff is that while you don’t want to leave people out (I mean, who knows about this shit anyway?) you also don’t want to make it so obvious that it ruins any sense of discovery – i.e., you don’t want to tell the story twice by saying what the tune is about at the top. So, we tried to think of ways to be generous with the listener and also to flesh out the ideas (and as you say, sometimes provide a different context and reading altogether, like the Island of Lost Souls clips at the start of “Ota Benga’s Name”). We did this not just with audio clips that set a mood and give some basic info as to the theme of the song, but also with the newspaper clips in the booklet, images, etc.

Also, Dave and I always loved Pink Floyd, especially the way the songs would have these endless, pretentious audio clips before them. You have to understand, people sometimes accuse the record of taking itself too seriously, and in a sense they’re right, but we happen to also find that kind of approach very funny.

DOA: Aside from the clips, how much do you think the band’s “sound” provides a stylistic context? There are a handful of indie acts crafting ambitious music with more than just guitar, bass and drums, but few seem to display the, for lack of a better word, antique feeling that you drum up on SFTFF Vol. 1 Maybe the clips and the context make the music feel other-worldly (or other-timely, to be more accurate), but how much do you think the genres Pinataland explores really play into this flirtation with the past? That kind of question feels almost too academic-minded to ask, but I’d love to know your thoughts on why Pinataland sounds as if it were so distinctly from another time and place. Also, was this something consciously constructed or did the themes sort of follow the sounds that came to you naturally?

David Wechsler: Well, the idea of pop music is seen as a fairly recent development but has a long, long history, all of which is present in today’s pop music (something that Richard Thompson tapped into with his recent “1,000 Years of Pop Music” concerts). There really is centuries of pop music formula in the songs that are written today and sounding like an earlier time is more a matter of taking out the modern signifiers than trying to recall an earlier time. When you take out or mix up those reference points is when the music starts to sound other-worldly.

Something similar happens (mostly in a bad way) with much of what people call “world music” today. World music has ironically become music that doesn’t exist anywhere naturally in the world. It’s an amalgam of styles without context.

We do a similar thing in a temporal sense rather than a locational sense, but put the context back in through the lyrics. Listening to the orchestration on our songs, they can be quite a jungle of competing influences, mostly due to the fact that just about everyone in the band has wildly different musical tastes. I remember while we were mixing the album, almost every mix decision was made to counteract the prevailing style that the music was evoking. It’s not that we have a knack for creating music that sounds like it’s from another time, it’s that we have a knack for creating music that doesn’t sound like it’s from any particular time. Then we tell people it’s about historical stories and their brain fills in the old-world feel.

That said, not everyone is fooled. After one show someone came up to us and said, “You guys claim to reference all this old music but most your songs sound like they come from a 70′s rock opera.” I was offended at the time but with the benefit of distance, I can admit that one of the only converging focal points in both my and Doug’s musical past is Jesus Christ Superstar.

DOA: That’s interesting and answers, I think, a few other questions I had percolating. Out of curiosity, then, do your songwriting or recording processes dictate the sound or style of a particular song or performance? I guess what I’m also asking here is how much of Pinataland is a product of group collaboration, with many people bringing many contexts to the table, versus how much is a product of individual or semi-collaborative vision, with one or two of you stepping to the forefront and saying you crafted a song with this or that genre or musician in mind? Are there any musicians/artists who figure prominently into your writing process or the early stages of rehearsal? I can hear, as we mentioned earlier, Tom Waits but I also notice the cinematic and somewhat more subdued songwriting style of bands like Pinetop Seven and Calexico. Do these sort of specific influences also play into the reference points you’re citing?

DW: Well, different songs are done different ways. It depends a lot on how fully the person who wrote the song has thought about the different parts. Some songs all we give the band is chord sheets and a recording with just guitar or piano and vocal, others have a few specific parts we hear in various sections of the song, and some we’ve actually sat down and written scores for. But even stuff that’s given to everyone fully composed, there’s a lot of room for change depending on how things come together in rehearsal.

We’ve definitely thrown out previously written parts, even sections of songs once the band gets in and starts playing the song and figuring out what works. It’s occasionally painful to toss it out, but usually turns out to be a good idea. My current favorite approach is to make a fully orchestrated demo of the song, but with entirely different instruments and techniques than I know the band uses. My demos recently are full of drum
machines, heavy percussion, distorted guitars and the like, none of which the band uses. I try to do whatever I feel I can at my crappy home studio that captures the feel of the song and then ask the band to translate that into a Pinataland song.

As for my influences (Doug can speak to his own) they’re pretty varied. I can group them into two different sets: music influences and song-writing influences. For song-writing side there are a lot of the usual suspects, Tom Waits being an important one, but also including Paul Simon, Stephen Sondheim, David Byrne, Chico Buarque, Lyle Lovett, The Band, Jacques Brel, Little Jack Melody, and Raymond Scott. On the musical side of my influences I listen to a lot of music from other countries. There’s a lot of great bands in the Balkans, like Sum Svistu, Salijevi Orkestar and Besh O Drom. I’ve also been listening to and have been hugely influenced by Cuban and Brazilian music for a long time now. (Probably the only musical theory I’ve really spent a lot of energy studying has been Afro-Cuban and Afro-Brazilian drumming.) Favorites from Cuba and Brazil include Chico Science, Los MuÒequitos, Jorge Ben, Os Mutantes, Pello El Afrokan, Celeste Mendoza, Rebeca Matta, Timbalada, etc. From Mexico, I’ve been listening to CafÈ Tacuba a lot recently and I’ve just started getting into Asian music, mostly from Indonesia and Japan. I also found this great French company called Fremeaux and Assoc. that puts together compilations of old 78s from around the world. Whoever puts them together has a good ear for interesting stuff.

So, my own influences are pretty conflicting in the first place, and when you add everyone else’s into the mix, it starts to get less and less recognizable as anything in particular. Above all we just try to write good
songs. “When you strip away all the instrumentation and historical background is this still an interesting song?” is the question we most often ask ourselves. As for trying to recall a certain genre or songwriter that we’re imitating, that usually doesn’t fly. We’ve both written tunes that sound like so and so, but do our best to derail them from that path in the rehearsal or recording process.

DS: A note on the songwriting duties. Pinataland’s songs are about one-third written by Dave, one-third by Doug and one-third co-written, or at least that’s what I like to think. I haven’t broken down the numbers. So I can answer for two-thirds of the material.

Your use of the word “cinematic” is apt. As a kid I was really into soundtracks. My parents were strict military types that forbid rock ‘n’ roll, and for better or worse I tend to think about songs very cinematically, i.e. narratively. This is a very “Broadway” tradition of music that can be annoying (or funny, if you like the musical Urinetown) if not done carefully, i.e., using the music and lyric to undercut each other to produce unpredictable results. Dave mentioned making decisions in the mixing process that contribute to this and I think it extends to the arranging and songwriting as well. Often I’ll give Dave a song that’s just lyrics and chords and melody, and he’ll come up with an arrangement and harmonies that seem to be battling the intent of the tune, and in the end it saves the song from being a fete accompli. Dave’s songs are much more complete than mine when he submits them to the band – often full arrangements are already done. He’s basically the arranger for the band and, like I said, his instincts are usually contrary to a conventional reading of what the song might normally call for, and this helps us be harder to pin down.

As far as specific reference points, I’m not too familiar with Pinetop Seven or Calexico (my favorite bands will probably always be the Pixies and Talking Heads) but I’m sure they’re responding to some of the same things we are.

Some artists might bristle at the notion that they are not beholden to the zeitgeist of their generation, culture, etc., all the things that make them less of an individual artist and more of a part of a community of people thinking about the same things in similar aesthetic ways. But I quite like it when I see or hear work that has similar formal/content obsessions. I just saw a great play called “What’s That On My Head?” that’s basically a retelling of the last 500 years of American history as a surreal, schematic tableaux. Sounds familiar! Also, I’d like to say that the idea of doing a song based on a historical event is nothin’ new – everyone from Woody Guthrie to the Bee Gees to the Folksmen have done it, but maybe we’ve figured out a sound and lyrical approach that can work for at least two full length records that doesn’t become unbearably tedious (I hope).

DOA: There are a lot of layers to peel away here. In the most simple sense, though, do you consider your approach to songwriting and performance and even being in a band more academic or more emotional? As much time as we’re spending talking about influences or the context of historical revisionism, songs like “Latvian Bride” really involve the listener on an emotional level. You feel it in your stomach. It’s not just music for the head to devour. Do your own individual emotions and personal experiences weigh as heavily on the processes we’ve discussed as some of the loftier “concepts” or approaches?

DS: It’s funny you bring up the “head vs. heart” thing. A few years ago a close friend of mine who’s really into country came to see us and afterwards gave me a stinging critique. She said that while the music was very clever it left her cold emotionally. That was around the time we were starting to write this last record and it really got me thinking about how to convey the feelings I have about these stories better. With the conceit that we’ve made for ourselves it can be easy to focus on telling the story in an interesting way lyrically and musically and forget that the whole point is to touch the listener on an emotional level. So in some ways the last record is an attempt to do that, and I think the next one (Vol. II) deals even more with the personal emotions of the characters . It’s also more upbeat and, therefore, a bit more diverse.

To answer your question about personal experiences: that’s another good question, because again, the conceit can diminish that in favor of more detached observations. But the best songs combine mythic stories with personal feelings. In fact, those are the moments that make history most relevant, when you realize that someone long dead felt the same way you do. “Velocity” is a good example of that, and maybe “Flying Down to Moscow”. The personal intersection for me is the longing for transcendence – and not just the abstract spiritual kind either!

A character like Mathius Rust is more than just a weird teenager that flew into Russia. He touches me in a very specific way, that you can create meaning in your life by doing something that is both physical and metaphorical at the same time. And performing these songs is that thing for me. So I hope that the emotion comes through. It’s certainly something that people pick up on differently.

DW Well, I’d argue that there is no emotion in music without the “academic” side of it. Even punk music, which is supposed to be so raw and unguided has a very rigorous logic to it (perhaps even more rigorous than other types of music.) Being in a band is both academic and emotional experience and
they aren’t these forces set against each other. They work together and reinforce each other.

Emotions are bubbling up from the egg-headed topics we sing about in the first place. History isn’t usually explained in emotional terms, but they’re there. We just excavate them and move them to the forefront of the story, which is probably where they were when the events were happening.

“Latvian Bride” is about Ed Leedskalnin, who apparently defied the laws of physics to build the Coral Castle as a monument to his lost love (who was just 16 when she broke off their engagement.) It’s a very romantic (if occasionally creepy) story so why wouldn’t the music be emotional?

And academic musical ideas helped create that emotion. For instance, in that song, we felt that certain parts should recreate musically the idea of these “lines of magnetic power” that Ed said he could manipulate to move the tons of coral rock that he placed single-handedly. In practice, this amounted to having lots of long tones, especially in the accordion, that cut through the chords that are moving around it. It also gives an elegiac, aching quality to the song. I’ve found that the cleaner the ideas that the song is constructed with, the better the emotions are able to come through.

DOA: For the sake of making our little conversation cyclical, let’s end where we began: with the concept of time. What’s the future hold for you guys and how much a part, if any, will themes of time and history play in it? In short, what can we expect from Songs Vol. 2?

DS: Songs for the Forgotten Future Vol. 2 will pick up where Vol. 1 left off. “Latvian Bride” merges progress (the castle) with nature (the coral from the sea). The next stories are much more about nature in history – lost nature (“The Fall of Sam Patch”), weather (“El Nino”), Ted Kaczinsky (“The Scapegoat”), and the future of nature and people in space.

“In Old New York” is about Manhattan Island around 30,000 B.C., while “The Settlers” is about the greening of Mars. I think it’ll be a more upbeat affair, less morose. The last one was a somewhat depressing record. This one will be more expansive. More pedal steel. And it will be the last Pinataland history record. There will be a collection of non-history songs (mostly written by Dave) after that, and, then, who knows? Something entirely different I guess. Current projects include recording a song (“Big Bang on Wall”) for a cell-phone tour of lower Manhattan, and doing a show with dancers at PS 122. My dream is to create a series of films that tell all the stories from the forgotten future using “bug animation,” a la the Russian animator Ladislaw Starewicz.

Also, we want to play down in Water Tunnel #3, the largest-ever construction project in New York history. Did you know we have two new songs on our website, one for John Kerry and one for the anniversary of the Slocum disaster?

Also, Dave is moving to Chicago. He and I will continue to work together. Pinataland will continue but in altered forms.

Profile: Bonni Evensen from Snowy (2003)

Originally published in Delusions of Adequacy Sept. 22, 2003

For those looking for the surface of life to imitate art, I’m sorry to report that Bonni Evensen, the singer-songwriter behind the atmospheric pop ensemble Snowy, is anything but cold or wintry. Anyone who has a copy of Snowy’s debut CD, Lilywhite, knows that Evensen has that rare voice that, even when hanging in isolation, could melt your heart. But she also has a sense of humor and a quirky, quick wit that will catch you off-guard if you’re expecting another teary-eyed, half-reluctant indie crooner.

As proof, consider this little snippet, taken from a conversation on the cover art to Lilywhite, a collage of a headless ice skater standing on a rough, emerald green sea while a lighthouse is burning on the nearby shore:

“I love surrealism – like Magritte and Dali – [and] putting strange things together that don’t make sense. It [the cover] is a collage done in Photoshop. I found the skater girl in a 60′s painting I bought on eBay. She was one of those doe-eyed sad sacks and she was so funny and corny that I had to chop her head off. If you believe it, you can skate on very thin ice, or no ice at all. The sea image is also from an old painting and it looks very much like the rough Northern California coastline, which I love, comfortingly cold and lonely. The burning lighthouse? Who knows. I didn’t really think about all of it, I just kluged it together.”

Evensen’s music, though little of it has been released to the public, is anything but kluged together. Working with San Francisco-area musicians, she crafts densely textured, cinematic pop songs that resonate on deep emotional levels. Sure, sure, there are the ruminations on heartbreak and longing, but Evensen seems to inject an eerie snese of introspection to the proceedings. The listener, if they’re willing to come along for the ride, is seemingly rewarded for joining her in the carefully laid shadows and musical crevices.

Delusions of Adequacy recently got the chance to sit with Evensen in some of those shadows, talking via e-mail about the release of her band’s first CD, her obsession with all things musical, and her response when people ask how such a welcoming and warm person can make such sad and elegiac music.

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Delusions of Adequacy: I’m sure the Snowy record has drawn more than a few comparisons to Portishead. But while the majority of atmospheric pop floating about these days might draw comparisons to Portishead, you can actually hear a range of different musical influences on Lilywhite. This could be called a pop record, I suppose, but a good number of the songs also have a cinematic scope to them and your voice is far more emotive than what you’d hear fronting your usual pop-rock band. What sort of music were you listening to while writing the songs on the record? Do you feel this had an impact on the overall sound of the release? What, traditionally, would you say are your biggest musical influences?

Bonni Evensen: I love all sorts of music, really all sorts. I know, everyone says that, but it’s true. I’ll hear a snippet of music while watching an Alfred Hitchcock film and have it in my head for days and then a song comes out of it. I remember dancing around in circles with my little sister listening to the
Mancini soundtrack to The Pink Panther maybe 4,000 times when we were kids. I’ll go to a party and not remember a single conversation I had but will remember a song playing in the background, like Simon and Garfunkel’s “America,” and obsess on it for days until it works its way into a song. It could just be one note that I keep, or the mood or the feeling, wondering what on Earth the secret is to that song that grabs me in its paws and won’t let go. Sadly, nothing I write ever sounds anything like those gorgeous songs, but it is a reason to keep trying. A friend of mine plays me these odd Eastern European polkas on her accordion and they just amaze me. Really almost anything musical fascinates me. When I was a kid everyone in my family played music except for my dad. Trumpet, tuba, accordion, clarinet, piano, oboe, saxophone and flute. A complete oompa band! I played in jazz band through high school and I’m sure playing big band songs has influenced me in some ways that I’m embarrassed to admit. I love the great jazz vocalists like Billie Holiday and Nina Simone, and I love Chet Baker. Oh, and I secretly wish I was Colin Blunstone, the singer from The Zombies. I’d get a sex change operation if it would enable me to sound like him. In general I’d say, of course, I love 60′s pop music the most (Beatles, Brian Wilson, V.U., Love, The Byrds, Mamas and Papas, Burt Bacharach, Astrud Gilberto …) But then there’s soul, oh my. What about Al Green and Marvin
Gay and Smokey Robinson? Then, there’s a bit of country and blues: Hank
Williams, Lonnie Johnson and Lucinda Williams. Current artists, I’d have to say I really love Radiohead and Elliot Smith and, please stop me now, I could go on here forever. Because I have a hard time picking out one CD to play at a time. I mostly play a college radio station, probably 12 hours a day. I love it, KALX in Berkeley. The DJs constantly surprise me and I could hug every one of them. But let’s see, I’d say that collectively we were all listening to Radiohead and that could have had some impact on the sound of the production of the record. But there were so many influences flying in from everyone it’s hard to tell.

DOA: Aside from pointing to your own musical interests, how do you describe the record to those who haven’t heard it? Or to those who know you but don’t know about your music?

BE: I’m terrible at describing it. People ask and I’ll just say Moody Chick Music. Goth Housewife? Um, mostly I just say moody, emotional and slow. That sure weeds people out. People I know are always surprised when they hear it. They say things like “Oh honey, you’re such a happy girl. I had no idea you were so depressed!”

DOA: Tell me more about the process you go through – or have gone through in the past – as a songwriter. Lilywhite is an emotional record, but also one that feels very composed, very put together, very produced. Were the songs kind of birthed more or less as we hear them on the record, or were they smaller or more vague ideas that were expanded as the writing and recording took place?

BE: Oh no, they were very stripped-down. I have a four-track recorder and I’d just play around and put down very bad guitar tracks, and whatever else I had around. I play a keyboard or whatever until I hear something and put that down, add accordion, bongos and voila … a bizarre little recording is birthed. The songs then came into the studio and were transformed into pretty big productions, layer after layer.

DOA: While many of the songs on the record sound as if they are being performed by a full band, the title track stands in stark contrast, a ballad with an almost glacial pace that supplements a single guitar line and your voice with spare bits of strings and keyboard. On top of all of this, the song’s lyrics are more literal and straight-forward than what surrounds it: we’re bedside with you as you watch a friend undergoing treatment that is clearly tearing both of you apart. Can you tell me the story behind the song? Did the story dictate the feeling of the song? Was the decision to record the song as we hear it a conscious one?

BE: That one really stood apart. I wrote it after visiting my best friend in the hospital after having cancer surgery. She was young and lovely and it was such a strange and shocking environment to see her in. I went home that night and the song just fell out. I was so upset that I didn’t know what else to do. There was something so honest about it that it couldn’t really be covered up, so there it is. It wasn’t really a conscious decision to record it that way. The most wonderful thing about music is that I don’t have to think it all out first like I do in my work world. It’s so freeing to do things for the sake of doing them versus trying to make them marketable.

DOA: In addition to talking about your friend on “Lilywhite,” you seem to reference a lot of incidents from your personal life – either real or fictional or in between – throughout the record. How much do you find your own life working its way into your music? Do you see the songwriting process as a kind of catharsis, a way of addressing things from your personal life? Or is it more just that you tend to write what you know and your own life is fertile ground content-wise?

BE: My life always works its way into my music. I think anyone who says their music is anything but that is lying. Writing is one of the few things I can think of that truly makes me feel better. I take all of the darkness and try to make something beautiful-the old sand in the oyster story, it rips at your insides until you coat it with mother of pearl. The darkness is still there, but it’s wrapped in something beautiful and lovely to touch. I take such comfort in the sad songs of others when I’m feeling down, so I’m trying to give back. I can only hope to write songs that even slightly touch others emotionally.

DOA: While Lilywhite features strong performances from Steven Roback, Tim Mooney and others, you really do seem to steal the show. Is this the debut of Snowy proper or is it more a solo work with contributions from others? As the individual credited with the vast majority of the songwriting on the record, how do your initial ideas about the songs compare to the final product?

BE: Steven was very involved in the conception of most of the songs. He helped me flesh them out, and, thank God, he also helped me to stay honest. He would call me on my bullshit. He inspired me to write in the first place. Originally, I was just singing in a little side project with him and soon after we were recording demos at his home studio. Recording the final album was a group effort. If it was just me you’d be stuck with bongo and ukelele four-track demos. I feel very lucky. It was truly inspiring to work with such talented friends. Of course, it wasn’t always easy as it can be intimidating working with experienced people. Like one day, I brought in a song in that was in 3/4 time and Tim wanted to change it to 4/4 and at first I thought, NO WAY! But it actually worked out really well. I had to let go of control. And I hate that! Ha. This is my first record so I was more than a little shy and insecure. I was a nervous wreck. The next one has to be easier, right? I’m hoping to be more courageous next time and play more of the parts and have more input on the production, even if I’m terrible. I’m going to do a lot of experimenting with ProTools in the meantime. Uh-oh.

DOA: The big question for those who own the record: What’s on the horizon for you? Are there plans to tour or perform, or will you be focusing on another record sooner than later?

BE: I wish we could perform more but the logistics have been tough. Almost everyone has big priorities: families, jobs and other musical projects. I’m planning on recording again in the fall, and I can’t wait. I want to start performing more after that, and possibly prior to that. In the meantime I’m busy throwing my nets out for horrible and depressing experiences to write about. Ah, just kidding. I’m actually trying to learn to write about the happy aspects of life as well. Why is that so hard? I’ll have to think about that and get back to you.

Profile: Vital Cog’s Steve Stone (2003)

Staring at the Workings of The Gears:
An Interview with Vital Cog Records Founder Steve Stone

Originally published in Delusions of Adequacy July 13, 2003

Let’s cut through the static. Who are the voices worth listening to in indie rock? Well, push aside the soundbyte-spewing iconoclasts and the photogenic figureheads, the outspoken fanzine addicts and the record store snobs, the image-conscious lo-fi scenesters and the bands playing seedy dives just to score a cover shoot with Magnet. What are you left with? The people who really drive the vehicles that bring indie rock around the globe: the individuals who make sacrifices, both professional and personal, and run independent labels.

While the world is familiar with the Corey Rusks and the Greg Ginns and the Ian McKayes, though – and rightfully so – there are scores of lesser-known label heads doing incredible things by simply doing what they love best. Consider them among the truly unsung heroes of the underground. Case in point: Steve Stone, founder and philosophical guru behind the “anatomically correct” New Jersey indie Vital Cog Records.

Stone, who founded his label in 1997 after managing – among others – the indie pop-rock act Moped, hesitates when asked to describe himself, his history, and his background in independent music. What’s important, it seems, is the product he helps to produce. In six years, Vital Cog has put out close to 30 releases, all of them exhibiting a kind of professionalism and a trademark of innovative design rarely seen in small indies, by bands from Aviso’Hara and Black Sonny to the infamous My Dad Is Dead. Among those releases have been overlooked indie rock gems, as well as rewarding projects like the “Superheroes of Rock” 7″ series and a collaboration with Doug Allen, of “Steven” fame.

In the six years the label has been running out of central New Jersey, however, what are also among the most interesting sounds coming from it are the ruminations from Stone on the ups and downs of producing and peddling independent music.

“The label officially started in February ’97,” remembered Stone, in a recent phone interview.

“I started the label because, after managing a couple of bands and dealing with major labels and seeing what they did to the bands, I decided I could do just as bad a job as they could at putting out records,” he said with a laugh.

The Princeton, N.J. native feels, though, that the disasters of major label marketing and commercialized cultural manipulation, strange as it may sound, are a benefit to the indie rock community in some ways.

“Independent music and bands will live on as long as there’s nothing but crap being put out by major labels,” said Stone. Point, Vital Cog.

Delusions of Adequacy recently got the opportunity to pick Stone’s brain on more than just the disasters of major label-driven music culture, conducting a short question-and-answer session via e-mail.

Delusions of Adequacy: Over the course of Vital Cog’s six years and change, you’ve put out records by a number of indie rock bands. Let’s indulge in the hyphenated-genre game: How do you describe “The Vital Cog Sound” to someone who’s never picked up one of the label’s offerings? Are there bands that, over the years, have epitomized what you see as the label’s sound or are the types of bands you hope to feature in the future?

Steve Stone: I don’t know that there is a conscious effort to have a “defining sound.” I guess part of it is just my particular taste in music. I like guitar-driven, melodic, smart songs that rock. Each band adds its own personality to those qualities. So, no, there isn’t really a particular band that epitomizes the label sound. Maybe when we start putting out hip hop records …

DOA: Are there any indie bands out there now who you would love to work with or cut a record with based on your interests in that particular sound?

SS: There are a few. No. 2 (Neil Gust, formerly of Heatmiser), The Wedding
Present, Freeheat (Jim Reid, formerly of The Jesus & Mary Chain).

DOA: While some indie labels seem to be trapped in the lo-fi black-and-white photocopying rage of decades past, Vital Cog seems to reach for more innovative designs. Do you look at the artwork and design of Vital Cog releases as a defining trait for the label?

SS: Not really, it’s more a matter of style along with substance. If a record looks interesting without knowing what it sounds like, someone is more inclined to give it a chance. I just try to keep things looking as professional as possible given the limited budgets. I also have to give much of the credit to the bands and in particular, Frank Bridges, former bass player for Duochrome. Frank has come up with a lot of the artwork ideas and he is the in-house style master.

DOA: Who’s been behind the label logo shifts? I’ve counted a few over the years you guys have been releasing music.

SS: Ah, yes, the logos. I designed all 3. The first one [a simple gear next to black text] was when I was in my graphic design infancy and it shows. The second one [a uniformed milkman] was just stupid, but the current and final logo design [an updated, 3-D version of the gear] is the one I am most happy with and the one that has been on the most releases.

DOA: Followers of the Vital Cog aesthetic will be treated to a sixth anniversary retrospective in the near future. Tell me about it.

SS: The disc, entitled Dominate The Gears – 6 Years of Vital Cog Records, will include tracks from almost all of our 26 releases, including a rare Moped song that was on a spinART split 7″. The bands on the disc include: Moped, The Diane Linkletter Experience, Aviso’Hara, Duochrome, Sonny Sixkiller, Tim, Ditch Croaker, The Bigger Lovers, Silkworm, John Strohm, My Dad is Dead, Chris Colbourn, Blacksonny, Tizzy and Doug Allen, all in chronological order.

DOA: Sounds like quite the collection. Who could you see putting on a Vital Cog anniversary disc five or ten or twenty years from now?

SS: Good question but I don’t have a good answer. I’ll just be happy if there is a reason to do another anniversary disc.

DOA: You’re fairly outspoken about the work that small labels put into independent releases, without the backing of corporate funds or power structures. If there’s one thing you’ve learned in your six years operating Vital Cog that you wish you knew from Day One, what is it?

SS: Distributors suck. Most of them, anyway.

DOA: Any advice to fledgling indie labels? It seems technology has done quite a bit to allow anyone to put their CD on the market under a label name, but what advice would you give to someone out there looking to really take the plunge and start a small label?

SS: My advice would be to spend your money on something else. Unless you have unlimited funds or an uncle in the business, it’s a tough, thankless task. Just make sure you believe in the bands you’re working with and they put as much effort into it as you do.

DOA: In the Vital Cog split 7″ series, various names in indie rock offered spare tracks and donned outfits that made more than a passing reference to the Marvel Comics of the 1970s. Any plans to continue the series?

SS: We had planned to do a total of 6 split 7″s in our “Super Heroes of Rock” series, but due to the expense and lack of interest in vinyl these days, I’ve decided to stop it at 3. It’s a shame because we had some great bands lined up for the next 3.

DOA: Like who?

SS: We had agreements with Crooked Fingers, No. 2, Freeheat, Cobra Verde,
The Bigger Lovers and The Minders.

DOA: The big question: can quality indie rock really be produced in a place like New Jersey? Though you’re based out of Princeton, a bit of an atypical town in the Garden State, what’s your approach to releasing music by regional/national acts? Has your focus tended to lean toward sounds pouring out of the tri-state area?

SS: The great thing about running a label is it doesn’t matter where you do it as long as the UPS truck can get there and you have a web site. I’ve never even considered making Vital Cog a regional label. We have released records from bands in Kentucky, California, Massachusetts, Alabama and beyond. It doesn’t matter to me where the bands are from. As long as the distributors get the music in stores, college radio plays it and zines review it, people will find out about it. We get orders on our web site from all over the world.

DOA: Do you find people seem to look at you as a “New Jersey” label or do most seem to share the view that zip codes don’t have much to do with the label’s character?

SS: I don’t think most people are very aware of where the label is based. My experience has been that people usually ask where we are after the fact, so I’m pretty sure it’s not an issue.

DOA: Why “Vital Cog?” And, furthermore, what exactly do you mean when you say the label’s been “anatomically correct” since 1997?

SS: Because “Starfucker” was already taken and by “anatomically correct” we mean we have normal sized genitalia, for now at least. Science has come a long way.

Profile: The Lesser Birds of Paradise (2004)

Originally published in Delusions of Adequacy Oct. 18, 2004

Mark Janka may have a gift for crafting frighteningly fragile acoustic lullabies, but, when it comes to spinning tales about his band’s enigmatic name, the tender-voiced frontman for Lesser Birds of Paradise admits he’s at a loss for words.

“I thought I made up a lie that was a good story for that but I forgot the story,” said Janka during a conversation that took place after the Chicago trio recorded The Scenery, a six-song follow-up to this year’s majestic String of Bees.

The band’s moniker was pulled from a random line of poetry, Janka said, a sentiment that spoke to his love of birds as metaphors and symbols.

“That’s the best I got,” he joked. “I’m working on making up a better story than that. If you’ve got one, send me an e-mail.”

Jokes about the obscure history of the band’s name aside, this seems to be a fitting introduction to an emotive ensemble that seems to shimmer brightest when a little lack of clarity is left in the mix, when the tender stories don’t all follow clearly delineated lines and arcs, and when some references go unreferenced.

A native Midwesterner, Janka cut his teeth not on the tender folk and lush, acoustic pop that have become the Lesser Birds’ calling card, but on the alternative and indie-rock scenes of the 1980s and early 1990s. While in college, Janka said some of his biggest influences were American Music Club, Pavement, The Replacements and Magnetic Fields, bands that informed his early efforts at songwriting and performance with the rock act Pillar Box Red.

“That was what you’d expect a college band to sound like in 1993,” said Janka, who described the band — which also featured future Lesser Bird multi-instrumentalist Tim Joyce — as a hybrid of Pavement and Smashing Pumpkins. “It was power chords. I guess we didn’t know a lot of those big solos.”

After Pillar Box Red recorded a demo with John McEntire, Janka said the group disbanded and began focusing more on what he bluntly calls “real life.” While Joyce recently moved to Montana to teach music, Janka’s day job is in the classroom, teaching English courses at Proviso High School in Maywood, Ill.

Janka’s love for music, though, didn’t wane.

Since 1998, Janka, Joyce, drummer/percussionist Greg Thomas and former bassist Tony Bianchi have always made time for the Lesser Birds. The group released its full-length debut — A Suitable Frame — in 2000 and, a year later, came out with the It Isn’t The Fall EP. A four-song split EP with Illinois-based singer-songwriter Jared Grabb followed in 2003, containing a “loud,” radio-friendly version of “Josephine,” an addictive pop exercise that reared its head again on 2004’s String of Bees.

While the String of Bees version of “Josephine” — all pedal-steel weeping, finger-picked acoustic guitars and half-moaned, half-whispered vocals — feels more somber and heart-wrenching than its electric-guitar predecessor, the sentiment below the surface is more universal.

“Josephine/ I think you know just what I mean/ When I say the tank is full/ And Philadelphia’s 12 hours away,” Janka sings on the track, which sits at the intersection of a road song and a plaintive ballad about heartbreak and romantic longing. Sound like a tall order to fill? Read on.

“Romeo/ He’s a boy that lives around the way/ Romeo/ I know you think he treats you okay/ And he might take you to all the dances thrown right here in town/ But I will take you from disapproving glances thrown when you’re around/ Josephine, won’t you drive away with me?”

Janka said the hunger in the song to return to Philadelphia is tinged with autobiography. Though he grew up outside Chicago, his parents were Philly-raised and, on his journeys back to their childhood homes, he felt a connection with the neighborhoods and the landscapes there.

“I just kind of wanted to see a different view of the world,” Janka said. “I somehow felt (Philadelphia) was somehow more real life.”

Driving also plays more than just a metaphorical role in the lives of Lesser Birds’ vocalist/guitarist. Janka said he often scribbles down lyrics and threads for song ideas while making the 40- to 45-minute commute to and from work every day.

“In the true folk tradition, I’ve been kind of using a Palm Pilot lately,” said Janka, who noted that lyrics often precede music when he’s writing new material. Sometimes, he said, he’ll hear something on National Public Radio (NPR) — a topic, a phrase — that catches his ear and he’ll jot it down in his Palm while driving.

Other pieces of cultural ephemera also make their way into Lesser Birds songs. The title of one String of Bees track, “Because We Are Also What We Have Lost,” was pulled from the film Amores Perros, Janka said.

Janka’s English students, however, are only sparingly welcomed into the songwriting process.

“There’s a few select students that kind of know (about Lesser Birds),” said Janka, when asked how much his day job and his musical career blend together. “We had a little secret songwriters club.”

String of Bees almost is the opposite extreme. In addition to the band’s core four members (Janka, Joyce, Thomas and Bianchi, who left the band recently), the 11-track disc features performances by Mark Greenberg of The Coctails, Joe Murphy of Dollar Love Plus, and Max Crawford of Poi Dog Pondering. Norman Phipps (father to String of Bees recording engineer and Coctails alum Barry Phipps) even made a guest appearance on the disc when he played along on the banjolin.

While mention of the band’s “hometown” of Chicago might call to mind the punk- and indie-rock circles of labels like Touch and Go and Quarterstick, Janka said the region is increasingly kind and welcoming to folk acts, which are being viewed as more accessible than they were even five years ago.

That’s a good thing for musicians like Janka, who referred to his folksy, finger-picking style of acoustic guitar playing as something that “is starting to become a minor obsession of mine.”

“When we have to define it, I guess we realize we’re a folk band,” Janka said. “I guess we feel we’re making folk music for indie kids.”

Well, when you’re driving through the night, racing on some impulsive trip to Philadelphia, perhaps, and you need something warm and enveloping to pour out of your stereo speakers, who better than a band that’s already been down that road?

(End.)

Greater Birds:
Mark Janka and Tim Joyce offer second thoughts on String of Bees

A Magnet in You
Mark Janka: This is one of several songs that has California in it. I work under the assumption that many Midwesterners have a love/hate relationship with California. California is our geographical “other.” I suppose that’s how it’s crept into so many of my songs even though, at the time of writing String of Bees, I’d only been to California once.

Tim Joyce: The “Magnet” sound was made with a cymbal and a Cole’s ribbon microphone. Since I was little, I have always put things up to my ears and put my ears up to things to see how the sounds they make will change. Same principle applied here. I liked the sound of the cymbal while listening from the side. If you move your head above the plane of the cymbal you get one sound. If you move below it, another. So I put a cymbal on my index finger and would hit it with a mallet and physically move the cymbal above and below the ribbon on the Cole’s microphone. The panning
was done later in the process.

When the Devil Does a Drive-by
MJ: When you start getting into finger-style guitar, you start listening to country blues. And, when you start listening to country blues, you generally begin with the biggies — Robert Johnson, Son House, Blind Willie Johnson, et cetera. I was listening to such fellows and experimenting with open-D tuning (sometimes called “natural” tuning) when I wrote this. I wanted to incorporate some of the style of the guitarists I’d been listening to without writing a “blues.” I felt that it was not my place to write a blues song, but I think I ended up with one anyway.

This song, like “Magnet,” was written during the year and a half that we were working on String of Bees. It was new enough that when we recorded it, I never actually sang the line “When the devil does a drive-by….” I meant to sing that in the last verse, but I just forgot. We liked the take enough to feel like it wasn’t worth re-doing. We did the acoustic guitar and the drums at the same time live in the same room, so there’s lots of bleed which give it a nice “real” sound. I don’t think any of the other songs on String of Bees were recorded this way. Our recent EP The Scenery was recorded almost entirely “live.” I think this track influenced our approach to The Scenery, and gave us the confidence to record that way.

TJ: Greg’s muted drumming and Barry’s microphone placement and choice on this song really makes this song work for me. Remember: there is always room for a little reversed baritone guitar.

This Is the Song I Wrote Last Night
MJ: Played in the DADGAD tuning. The demo was recorded as a humble little folk tune, but we wanted to put more movement and drama into the song. (After all, it is basically the same part repeated five times.) Max Crawford’s string arrangement does that ten times over. We ended up toning it down a little in the last verse. There were so many great ideas in that arrangement that we could pull one out and there was still plenty of great music happening.

“This Is the Song…” was written after coming home from a summer tour in 2002. The title was originally meant to be temporary, but I decided I like the way it allowed the song to remain in present. That way it’s not always about coming home in 2002.

TJ: The noise track on this song was an idea Mark had always had about the band arrangement for the song, and at some point I decided it would be fun to be able to have noise and be able to manipulate it in real time while we played. The truth of the matter is, the most portable thing available to me was a four-track, but it always worked out. Most of the sounds in here are lap-steel and melodica manipulated with delays and cassette tape flips. I think the four-track was actually played onto one track in the
recording process. And I think if you listen really hard you can hear Greg take his headphone off and set them on his snare drum at the end of the song.

MJ: It was important to me that we leave in the sounds of the song being made (Greg taking off his headphones, et cetera). I thought it grounded the lofty arrangement and, like the title, adds to the illusion that the song is always new (or just created).

Mermaid on the Blvd.
MJ: This song was inspired by an episode of the NPR program This American Life about trans-sexual and transgender “girls” in Los Angeles. I wanted to do something with the great slang, symbols, and locales associated with this scene: bricks, being clocked, The Little Mermaid, Benito’s Tacos…. That covered the verses. The choruses came from a little Internet research. I’m still not sure if I pronounced the names of those drugs correctly.

This song uses many stable, jazz chords. That contributed to the lounge feel of the verses. The choruses were known as “the Barney Miller part” due to the walking nature of the chord progression and bass line. That left us with the refrain riff which Barry called “the ‘Jessie’s Girl’ part.” We thought that part was too square to suit the rest of the song. This is where having your record recorded by a former Coctail really pays off. If a part needs to be garage-lounged up, there’s nothing like the Coctails’ network to deliver the goods.

Where the River Meets the Sea
MJ: This song was originally written as a fast, loud song. Some recordings of our attempts at this still exist on a hard drive somewhere. Sometimes I wonder what the hell we were thinking. This was also written on the Palm IIIc while driving. I feel I should mention that writing on you Palm while driving is not the safest practice in the world. I don’t really do it much anymore. I’m a bad enough driver as it is.

It was a real treat to have Barry’s father play on it, and Mark Greenberg’s work on the choruses makes the song for me.

TJ: Mark Greenberg’s OmniChord and pump organ parts in this song give me goose bumps every time I hear them. A perfect complement to Mark’s words and overall idea for the song.

Because We Are Also What We Have Lost
MJ: I love the way Max Crawford’s string arrangement makes the song sound like it ends in a very natural way. You can almost see the fade to black. Without the strings, my guitar part is out of time and sounds rushed.

TJ: The hammer dulcimer is something I have always wanted to get into a Lesser Birds song, and this seemed like a natural choice. I don’t claim to really play that thing, but is amazing what an open tuning will accomplish. I especially like the mixing choices that went into this song. Barry did a great job of making a lot of potentially very disparate elements come together.

You Snooze, You Lose
MJ: This is one of the first songs we worked on. We were very pleased with how it built up and how naturally the odd little noises dropped in. I think I wrote these words to the tune of a different song (a Palace song, maybe). By the time I got around to using them in one of my songs, I’d forgotten the source tune. It’s not unusual for me to have words lying around in a notebook (or on the Palm) for a year or more before I get around to actually finishing the song or coming up with the right music to fit the tone of the lyrics.

For some reason, when I play this song I think of California’s Highway One and my honeymoon (which was in California) although the words were written before I was married and before I’d ever been to California.

Assorted Aphrodisiacs
MJ: I used to play in a pop band called Dollar Love Plus with Joe Murphy (who plays guitar on this song). “Aphrodisiacs” was a song I wrote for Dollar Love Plus that I thought could also work as Lesser Birds’ song. We’d never recorded it with Dollar Love Plus, but we played it at many a show. I like to think of this as my version of “Sixteen Blue.” If Tommy Stinson grew up in a place like Naperville, Ill., instead of a place like Minneapolis, this would be his song.

TJ: If you listen closely, in middle of the bridge you can hear Mark say “Ahhhhh?” like he just drank a giant glass of lemonade. There was a bit of debate about whether that should be an “Ahhhhh” or a smooth, Barry White “Damn…!” I think the “Ahhhh” won out, but I still think I hear the “Damn…!” way down there in the mix.

MJ: Actually the “Ahhhh” was the idea of Bill Murphy (Joe’s older brother) who played bass in Dollar Love Plus. He was also in an alt-country band before there was alt-country called Bucket #6. Those of you who were kids in the ‘70s in Chicagoland get the reference of the band’s name, I’m sure.

Josephine
MJ: People are dying for this to be about a real person or a real experience. In fact, the story is fictional, though I feel the impulses narrator are very real.

With “Josephine,” I was trying to emulate the songs of the Vulgar Boatmen. In the early 90s, the Vulgar Boatmen would come to Chicago about once a month, and I went to nearly all of their shows. Many of their songs are about driving, leaving, planning to leave, or deciding to stay after all. Many of their songs use girls’ names in the titles and city names in the lyrics. While the story of the song is an attempt to write a Vulgar Boatmen song, the music is not. I think of the chords as just regular old song chords — something to keep the whole project afloat.

For a long time I tried to write a song that was exactly like a Vulgar Boatmen song. Their songs are technically simple; I thought I could do it. However, I never felt like I could capture that purity—the essence of the Vulgar Boatmen, so I gave up on it. “Josephine” is all I have to show for those efforts.

Come to the City
MJ: Tim wrote this one. I love the way this songs has strong elements of doom that run through it. (In some ways, I see it as the sister song to “When the Devil Does a Drive-by.”) The song is so solid in its mood, you hardly notice that the chords progressions could just as easily support a surf song (though most surf songs are not in waltz time). The trumpet and the strings give it a great spaghetti western vibe, but not so much that it’s being campy.

TJ: This songs idea came from two places. The verses are a drawn from a discussion I overheard a friend from Montana (Aaron Taylor) have with his mother. She had a distant friend who was psychic who had a dream that Aaron was in. There was an evil giant black cloud over Chicago and another over Charleston, S.C. The scary part is she had no idea that this guy lived in Chicago at the time and had already made the decision to move to Charleston.

Soon after all this I wrote the verses and decided myself to change locales and move out to Montana. I taught grade-schoolers out there and also have some nieces and nephews that live in a small town out there. I lived in a very small town, too, but could never decide if I could make it out there for the rest of my life. I always imagined being able to commute between Montana and Chicago and being able to show these small town kids something bigger. There is definitely a push-pull here between the city and the country. Certain parts of Max’s arrangements that are more right on the money than I could have ever heard them in my head.

MJ: That cello line, for instance.

Back There on Foot
MJ: This song was originally written for my friend Darlene Poole to sing, but the original version sounded too Indigo Girls for me. By the time I worked up a better version, it didn’t seem like there would be a proper outlet for her to use it. Fortunately, we got her to contribute some vocals to the track.

The title of the record is a misheard lyric in this song. The real line is, “Around my neck’s a string of beads.” Which is much less interesting than a string of bees. I often sing the bees line when we play it live because I like it more.

Please note the California reference.

TJ: I think Barry came up with the paddy-cake idea. I just wish I would have had a camera to film Barry and Greg sitting in the middle of the studio in front of a Neuman clapping hands like old pros. One take, folks!

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Scene Two, Take One:
Mark Janka and Barry Phipps on The Scenery

Mark Janka: The Scenery EP mentioned above is a six-song (five new Lesser Birds songs and a cover of Pavement’s “Here”), short-run recording done for Barry Phipps’ new label, Tight Ship Records. You can purchase The Scenery EP at Lesser Birds’ shows or at http://www.tightshiprecords.com.

Barry Phipps: I was really proud of the way the Lesser Birds worked on String of Bees. It was recorded off and on over a period of 18 months. Most of the ideas were developed in the studio through lots of experimentation. They would lay down tons of overdubs and we would sift through them to find the gems. They recorded many songs that didn’t fit the tone of the record and had the good sense to leave them off. Some songs were recorded several times in different ways until they developed into the matured versions on the LP. There were no compromises through tight deadlines, so it just matured until it was naturally complete.

The Scenery EP followed the completion of String of Bees.

The idea for The Scenery was to have them come in to the studio with six songs completely finished that we would record live and simultaneously mix straight to my Ampex 1/4″ two-track, which is the way all recordings were made before the invention of the first multi-track in the late ‘50s. I felt that it would be very satisfying to make a good record that was completely finished in about four hours, which is what we basically did.

They played in the same room with no separation, and no headphones. I did end up recording it to six tracks instead of going straight to the two tracks, but in the spirit of the original idea, I spent no more than ten to fifteen minutes of mixing for each song. We ended up throwing two overdubs to Naomi, “Are You Lonely?,” which was a baritone guitar and a flute, but the recording is still very sparse and open, as it was only three people playing at one time. This is my favorite-sounding record that I’ve recorded, and by far the most satisfying.

MJ: For the record, we also overdubbed the singing on “Here,” too. And with that, I still sang the words all wrong, but who really knows the words to that song anyway?

Profile: Jack Endino (2006)

Originally published in Delusions of Adequacy Nov. 27, 2006

You know Jack Endino.

If you consider yourself schooled in the noisy, garage-bred strains of indie-rock that made much of the 1980s and early ’90′s bearable, you’ve shaken a few speakers with Skin Yard. If you’re among those who hasn’t caught Endino’s work with Cryptkicker Five or his studio appearances with Mark Lanegan, you’ve definitely heard a few albums he’s produced or engineered. Nirvana’s Bleach, Mudhoney’s Superfuzz Bigmuff and the Sub Pop 200 compilation, that birth certificate of what later was dubbed grunge. Bruce Dickinson’s Skunkworks and several discs by the Brazilian group Titãs. Not to mention outings by The Afghan Whigs, Hot Hot Heat, Helios Creed, Tad, Supersuckers, Therapy?, The Makers, Coffin Break and Babes In Toyland. The list is epic and Endino shows no signs of slowing down.

Now, if further evidence is needed that the Pacific Northwest didn�t go dormant when the feeding frenzy over grunge left Seattle some 10 years ago, Endino has helped provide it with Permanent Fatal Error. His first solo record in more than a decade, the 15-track offering is as blistering as it is eclectic, a set where clattering, punk-fueled barn burners co-exist with acid-tinged psych-rock and a bluesy swagger that gave grunge a sense of history in the first place. In short, you should probably stop daydreaming about the glory days of pre-Singles Seattle and find yourself a copy.

Delusions of Adequacy recently had the opportunity to catch up with Endino, firing off a quick e-mail back-and-forth in between studio sessions to talk about the new record, the old Pacific Northwest and why journalists can’t resist turning him into a historian.

Delusions of Adequacy: Let’s hammer out the basics. Where were you born and when did you find yourself in Seattle? At what age did you first pick up the guitar or bang on the drums and what was your inspiration? What was your first band or studio credit?

Jack Endino: Hmmm … personal questions! Let’s see. Born in Connecticut. Family moved to Seattle in the early 70′s. Attended the U. of W., graduated with a BSEE. Lived in Bremerton for three years, working at Puget Sound Naval Shipyard as a civilian electrical engineer. It was a dumb job, so I saved most of my salary and bailed out, heading back to Seattle in 1984 with a plan to get in a band and/or find a job at a recording studio.

Started Skin Yard with Daniel House in 1985, then met Chris Hanzsek when he recorded Skin Yard for the Deep Six compilation he was putting together on his label, C/Z Records. Started working at Chris’ 8-track studio, Reciprocal Recording, in 1986. Then, Chris got tired of running C/Z Records and gave the whole thing to Daniel, who wanted to try running a label. I got more popular as an engineer, then as a producer, while Skin Yard got more popular as a band. Reciprocal got busy. Stuff started happening! That’s the nutshell version of events, pre-grunge.

What inspired me? As a teen, my friends were learning to play, and it looked like fun. I was already an obsessive music fan. I used to sit in my room listening to records on headphones so I wouldn’t wake my folks up and I would just dissect these records with my ears, already thinking like a record producer. Started as a drummer. Learned the basics in about a week; I just seemed to have the knack. But my first gig was as a bass player for a band called Food in December 1981. I played one gig with them before moving to Bremerton to work at the shipyard. The Food guitarist was a guy named Matthew Stadler, who is now a well-known writer. It took me a few more years to get confident enough to present myself as a guitar player, after I moved back to Seattle in ’84.

DOA: A bit of a leap forward. Late 2005, you release a record that’s got to be on some short lists for best of the year, a good decade and change after your last full-length solo outing. What prompted you to return to the studio as a solo musician? How long had you been considering the new album before writing, recording or working to release it?

JE: I had released two previous solo records, the last (Endino’s Earthworm) in 1992, and it was always in my mind to keep doing them. Nothing satisfies me more than making music. But “life and death” got in the way and a two- or three-year delay became 10 years. I had this long period where I had to deal with a lot of terrible crap in my life and it just stopped me creatively. Too many funerals. Finally, that stuff ended and, around 2002, I was able to think musically again and got on with it.

DOA: After watching Hype, it’s fairly clear you could serve as a resident expert on the musical life of Seattle and the greater Northwest. Is this a role you’d embrace or one you approach reluctantly? Further more, if you could write the epitaph on the tombstone of grunge and/or the media-fueled frenzy to define the “Seattle sound,” what would you write?

JE: I seem to have that historian role to some extent, by default, just by being in the middle of things for 20 years. Radio people love my speaking voice and journalists like the fact that I can actually make sense most of the time. But my proper role, my calling in life, is making records!

Hmmm. Epitaph for grunge: “Rock’s not dead. It just smells funny.” (Frank Zappa)

DOA: If the curious or uninitiated wander over to your website, they’ll find massive lists of the records where you’ve appeared as a musician and/or engineer. How does your work differ, creatively speaking, in those roles and has that changed over the years?

JE: I’m wearing two “hats” really, like using two different sides of the brain. One role is analytical, objective, requiring great concentration and attention to detail. And patience! The other is more creative and uncontrollable and is based on moods and inspiration, and on state of being, state of health, state of mind.

Production work is my craft, which can be controlled consciously and approached systematically. But my musical output is more based on whim and random factors. I might not have a worthwhile musical idea for months and suddenly I will wake up one morning, grab my guitar and record half a dozen song ideas, which I might not finish for a year or more. If I was still in a band, the interactions with other people would probably inspire me more often. It’s actually pretty hard to get the analytical side of my brain out of the way so the creative side can step forward, because of course it’s the analytical side which keeps a roof over my head.

DOA: Beyond that, would you prefer to have “Skin Yard noisemaker” or “Reciprocal studio guru” scrawled immediately after your name in some imaginary encyclopedia on the American underground?

JE: Well, neither. Reciprocal, which was never “my” studio. Only lasted five years and I’ve been making records non-stop for 20. I’m much better known now for the 300-odd records I’ve recorded and produced than for six Skin Yard albums and three solo records. Much of the planet knows me for recording Bleach, period. Others know about my role in the birth of grunge, something I still have mixed feelings about, since something so fun, goofy and subversive got co-opted so fast, and blew up into tragedy and farce.

Personally, I always thought of myself as a musician first until Skin Yard ended and then the grunge thing really exploded and everyone came to know me as that Seattle producer guy. I didn’t really make peace with the idea of being a “record producer” until I became more confident in my studio abilities, which took years! And I never thought of myself as that good a musician technically. Even now, I still think that I have something to say with my own songs and playing � a musical “thing” that I know to be uniquely me, that comes out when it’s good and ready to, which it finally did on my new record. It’ll never change the world but I know it’s still there inside me when I need it.

But, mostly, the way I interact with the world now is as a record producer.

DOA: In all honesty, when did you first get tired of answering questions about recording Bleach?

JE Around 1994. But I still answer ‘em, if they’re not in the FAQ … then I add ‘em to the FAQ!

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Profile: Carrie Yury (2006)

Originally published in Delusions of Adequacy

If you consider yourself prolific or a jack of all trades, you’ve never met Carrie Yury.

The California-based artist’s work is the definition of inter-disciplinary expression and feels unrivaled in underground circles. An MFA student at UC Irvine, she’s staged powerful photographic exhibits tackling subjects as seemingly disparate as love and obsession, social diseases, and ideals of perfection in a surgery-fixated society. She’s painted and worked to draw empathy to the forefront of viewer’s minds while documenting antique human medical specimens at a Pennsylvania physician’s college. And did we mention she released a six-song EP in 2005 that was one of the finest and frighteningly pristine solo debuts of the year?

But what truly separates Yury from her peers is the incredible degree of attention she lends to her work, from concept through initiation, from personal reflection through public consumption. For evidence, you don’t need to look further than Yury’s insights into projects like Mutter, which included a photographic exploration, a publicly staged exhibit and an EP featuring collaborators Will and Paul Oldham, Colin Gagon, and Richard Schuler.

Mutter investigates the contemporary desire for and impossibility of empathy, in both senses of the word,” Yury recently wrote. “The work is really comprised of two distinct, yet related projects: a body of photographs, and a body of music. The photographs are gorgeous, glossy, specimen-like images of liminal spaces and of diseased or malformed human specimens from the Mutter Museum in Philadelphia. The music is a song-cycle of poems set to music. The songs are sad-sentimental ballads or dark pop songs that attempt to invoke in the listener a sense of the loss that pervades the museum.”

“Both the photographs and the music address this sense of loss: loss of life, the recent loss of the museum’s long-time director, Gretchen Worden, loss of interest, as the museum becomes more a curiosity than a teaching museum, but most importantly, the loss of empathy, or the loss of the ability or desire to understand the feelings or experiences of other people,” she added. “The work is both a commentary on the place of emotion in the art world as well as social critique of our relationship to pathological and congenital betrayals of the body.”

And you thought your musings had depth.

Delusions of Adequacy recently welcomed the opportunity to speak with Yury by e-mail, talking as 2005 faded into 2006 about photography, independent music, and the complicated identities of multi-faceted artists.

Delusions of Adequacy: When the curious Google “Carrie Yury,” they’ll find references to your self-released solo record, Mutter, as well as images from your recent photography exhibit, “Untitled Work,” asides about your studies at UC Irvine, and an old Esquire clip in which a bartender of same name talks about alcoholic consumption. Who is Carrie Yury and what kind of artist is she?

Carrie Yury: Richard (Schuler, my husband) and I were just laughing about that the other day. He was trying to reassure me that people would think the bartender, academic, business consultant, sound artist and visual artist were all different people. But they’re all me.

More art by Yury

At one point about six or seven years ago, I was simultaneously working on a big photo project, trying to write my PhD dissertation proposal, playing in a band, and working full-time as a research consultant. I was having a fantastic time doing everything at once, having all parts of my brain and body so completely engaged. But at the same time I would look at friends of mine in each of those worlds who had really focused on just one thing � academia, art, music, or business � and they were getting so much further by focusing. It took me a long time but I finally made the decision to pare down and focus on one thing: art. That’s essentially what brought me to art school: the desire to pick just one thing and really commit myself to it.

Ironically I chose a multi-disciplinary MFA program: UC Irvine. At first I was really dogmatic about sticking to photography, but eventually I became a disciple of the practice of the medium following the idea. Now I paint, make photographs, do sound and installation work, whatever makes sense relative to the set of ideas I’m working on for any given project. So it’s worked out really well: I still get to engage in a peripatetic practice, but at the same time I’m completely involved and focused on one thing, making art.

DOA: That addressed, how does your work in one artistic or creative discipline bleed into another? I’ve read about your role in Fashion Island, the group of Orange County, Ca. musicians whose assemblage seemed more like an art installation than an organic, hammering-it-out-in-the-studio collaboration. Are multi-media/interdisciplinary projects like this, which seem to toy with notions of songwriting, audience, and performance art, the exception or the rule?

CY: You know, I don’t think of myself as a performance artist or as a multi-media artist. But I guess you are what you do, so it’s possible I need to rethink my self-conception a bit. Ultimately I think it makes more sense to think of myself simply as an artist, and let the medium follow the idea. If I do that then there are no rules or exceptions, just projects.

But, it’s easier said than done. Right now I’m working on two projects, a painting project and a photo project. It took a lot to allow myself to paint. I practically needed art psychotherapy to get to the point where I felt like I could legitimately paint, which is stupid because I’ve been painting all my life (that’s what my undergrad degree is in, along with literature). But, I hadn’t done it yet in grad school, so it was scary to come out as someone who painted. And the reaction I got was very similar to the reaction I got last year when people found out I was making music: surprise/disbelief. I don’t know why. Most people I know have lots of different skills and talents. But the academy, the music world, and the art world seem to be used to specialization. I’m lucky because my thesis committee is all very supportive of whatever I want to do, which has been very liberating, and allowed me to think about switching between different media.

DOA: Tell me a little about Mutter. What prompted you to write the songs on the EP or consider assembling musicians from the Palace stable and beyond for the project?

CY: Mutter was written about the Mutter Museum at the Philadelphia College of Physicians in Pennsylvania. I’d heard about the museum’s collection of 19th-century human medical specimens. I wanted to take photographs of the collection because I was interested in the idea or possibility of an artwork producing empathy in the viewer. I was hoping if I took pictures of dead things, it would make people think about mortality, war, and hopefully make people feel something about it rather than being so cut-off and complacent. I was allowed to photograph at the museum by Gretchen Worden, the museum’s long-time director and a real supporter of the arts. I took several hundred photographs in June of 2004.

After working with the photographs for about six months I decided I wanted to go back and re-shoot, focusing more on the spaces of the museum than on the specimens themselves. I realized that pictures of dead things actually distance viewers from an empathic response, making them desensitized. The photographs that really pulled at the heartstrings for me were the photos of the kind of sad and institutionally neglected spaces of the offices where the museum employees worked, in a kind of sub-basement off the museum. I wrote to Gretchen and Margaret Lyman, her assistant director, to ask permission to go back to the museum. But I got an e-mail back from Margaret informing me that Gretchen had died shortly after my first visit to the museum.

I had already been thinking about what I perceived as a lack of place for emotion in visual art, and had therefore started writing (hopefully) emotive songs about the museum. In fact, I wrote two of the songs in Mads Lynnerup’s Fashion Island band, which you mention above. I think music is the last place in art where eliciting an emotional response to the work is not just sanctioned but actually lauded. Since my initial idea with the Mutter project was to think about empathy, I followed the idea to its logical conclusion by writing music. Hearing about Gretchen Worden’s death just took the project to another level emotionally. She was such an amazing woman who did so much for the arts, particularly photographers, granting full access to the museum’s collection, putting out calendars and even a book of photographic work on the museum. She died way too young. So I didn’t have to manufacture emotion when I was writing the rest of the songs. It was already there.

As far as why I asked Colin, Will, Paul, and Rich to play on the album, I wanted the music to be as bitter-sweet as possible, to really go as far as it could in evoking emotion. Every time I hear Will sing or Colin’s keyboards, I feel that kind of almost unbearable pulling in my chest, that painful sweetness that I was hoping to evoke on the album. I was thrilled when they agreed. I asked Colin to produce because I really love his EZ-T stuff, and I love the work he did on Sara Beth Tucek’s album, so I knew he would know what to do with me. Paul and Richard were obvious choices because they’ve played a lot with Colin and Will, and they’re both kick-ass musicians. The fact that they’re all friends of mine and incredibly nice people was obviously a factor, too.

DOA: Did the writing or recording of Mutter differ from other musical projects in which you’ve been involved? While you’ve been involved in collaborative projects under various monikers and banners, did having your name on the CD face change your approach to the project?

CY: Absolutely. I loved the intensely collaborative nature of Dolce Volante, but had wanted to do a project that was self-directed for a long time. I write, sing, and play music, but I’m not a musician, I’m an artist, so it was a little scary stepping out on my own. But it was so fantastic to have a vision of what I wanted the music to be like and to have those guys be there to make it happen. I wrote most of the music at home on an old organ, and even though I sent the guys demos, when we got into the studio all they really had was my voice, chord progressions, and my verbal descriptions of how I wanted the songs to feel. But they’ve all worked together so much that it was easy.

Colin was the perfect producer, and an out-of-this-world keyboard player, Will’s voice and guitar were sublime, Paul’s bass and recording/mixing inspired, and Rich’s drumming fantastic. It was the most incredible high to have this idea of these songs floating around in my head for six months, and then in one weekend to have them embodied by these fabulous musicians. It was pure joy. I don’t feel unequivocal love for all of my work, but with the Mutter EP, I absolutely do. Sometimes I can’t listen to it because it hurts in just the right place in my chest. The experience was kind of addictive, actually. I can’t wait to make another album.

DOA: Was the decision to record Mutter outside southern California, home to a good deal of your work, a conscious one? If so, what role did location play in the tone of the record or the overall project?

CY: Before Will had signed on, Colin and I had talked briefly of recording up in northern California where his sister and brother’s band The Heavenly States has recorded. But after Will said he’d do it, it made so much sense to go to Kentucky. Richard and I could see family and friends, including a newborn nephew. Paul could record and play bass. It was relatively cheap to fly Colin in from New Orleans. It just worked. Plus we love Paul and his wife Krista and their dogs, and relished the idea of a bucolic weekend recording on the farm in Shelbyville. The mood out there was perfect. It was cold and kind of creepy/foggy at times, with an ominously dark sky. Other times it was clear, beautiful and crisp. We all huddled in the recording studio next to the enormous old gas heater. The only downside to the whole thing was that I got attacked by a rooster. (Don’t wear red sneakers around roosters. It ticks them off.)

DOA: Tell me about the exhibit timed with the release of Mutter. Was the disc an element or aesthetic detail of the exhibit, or was the exhibit more a way to showcase the musical work itself?

CY: Definitely the latter. In fact, I wanted to do a kind of take-away piece with just the CDs on the floor. I had already had an exhibit of the photographs in late winter, so I figured that I would use Supersonic to show the EP. But my thesis advisor, Catherine Lord, and my husband convinced me that I should use the photographs somehow. So I came up with the idea of the equalizer-bar-like light boxes that would hold the CDs, only revealing the photos underneath as the CDs were taken away. Richard then designed and built the light boxes. Ultimately I think Catherine and Richard were right to push me into thinking about a more sculptural presentation for the CDs. It kind of finished the piece and brought everything together nicely. And it gave the installation a presence and gravity it wouldn’t have had if the CDs were just on the floor.

DOA: For a disc that you describe as being cast in such emotionally resonant terms, Mutter‘s cover art and packaging � the minimalist approach, the slate-gray foundations � can feel cold and distant, far removed from the Kentucky scenes you describe of its recording. Was this a conscious decision regarding visual aesthetics? And, if so, how do you think these elements in general interact with the sounds contained within?

CY: Oh yes, it was definitely a conscious decision. I laughed when I read that question, only because every single element of the design of the CD was so incredibly belabored and loaded with meaning.

Overall the cold, distant feeling of the CD was meant to be a commentary on the fact that I think that emotion is really denigrated and/or mocked in contemporary visual art. So the idea was to make the CDs look like little monochrome paintings, or little conceptual sculptures, to cloak the CDs in a veneer of what’s been lauded in contemporary art: thought before emotion, brain before body. Dan Macadam at Crosshair in Chicago designed and silk-screened the inside of the CD, which uses the arc as a metaphor for light, playing with the luminosity of the silver paper, and referencing the integral part that light played in the project, both literally because photographs are made from light, as well as metaphorically, referencing death, both Gretchen Worden’s as well as that of the specimens themselves.

As far as how the design interacts with the music, it’s meant to be a process of initial contrast (front cover) and then illumination (inside cover). The CDs are cold little modernist paintings/sculptures/specimens when you first pick them up. But when you open them up, you understand that it’s music, you see who’s playing on it, you see the dedication, and hopefully that begins to set the mood for the music.

DOA: What’s next for you, both in terms of your academic studies and photographic/artistic work? And, also, do you plan on acting any time soon on that urge to record another disc? If so, do you think it will be another project- or concept-driven affair or a collection of songs with less-defined contexts?

CY: What’s next is my MFA thesis show. The thesis show is May 25, and then I’ll be in the SOCASS LA MFA show sometime this summer. I’m working on two projects right now. One is a photo project, and another is a painting project. The photos will probably be the MFA show, and the paintings will be in the SOCASS show.

I would really like to do another album. I have some ideas and some people in mind. It will probably be another concept album. I’ll start working on the album full-force after the SOCASS show is up.

DOA: Let’s end where we began. Google has that fancy “I’m feeling lucky” function on its search engine. If someone wanted the low-down on Carrie Yury, and you had your druthers about controlling what they’d learn first, what do you want them to know about you as a person, a musician or an artist?

CY: I actually just tried it, and it came up with my website (www.carrieyury.com). I think that’s perfect, because it shows all my recent work, tells people how to buy Mutter, and has my cv. That kind of says it all.